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With having built the Enterprise for Star Trek TOS and the shuttle. I still got that modelling itch that needs to be scratched, so I have decide while I have it why build each version of the Enterprise from Star Trek. However for the Enterprise A I won't do another Refit Connie, I'll just redo the Textures and the Reg.
Each Ship will be to scale.

With that said, onto the next Build and I am starting of with the Refitted Enterprise.
I am using the plans by Monte R. Johnjulio Enterprise. These are not to bad, though I have found while getting the impulse engines to match from a top and side view, when on a rear it out quite a bit, after resizing the picture to get it to fit it will knock something else out. So unless someone knows of better plans these will have to do

I made the saucer the B/C Deck and the roughed out the bridge.
I lost count how many times it took to get it to were it is now. I am happy with the front end it the rear I am not happy with. I can't seem to get the shape right, but I will keep at it.
With that said, I am extremally happy with the way the B/C deck turn out, I just need to sort out the area for the large windows at the back.

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Looking good so far, Dean!

Nice start, bro.

Thanks guys.
I am redoing the bridge again. Really not happy with it.

That bridge is a pain in the ass to get right.

Tell me about it.
I was trying to build it as one whole unit and Boolean separate object together IE the front roundness with the blocky back part. That was going no where and a crap look of issue that needs fixing or remodelling.
So I have bit the bullet and just model it as separate object and just join them together to from one object.
Just mean deleting faces that are not seen so the computer does not need to calculate them when rendering.

As I am already in these area, I started to add the details. Not what I was planning to do just yet but that the direction modelling this has taken me.

I don't even remember how I did the bridge when i built the ship, but that was five years ago. It's hard to believe it's been that long. The one for the ship I'm building now is similar, but different enough to be more CGI friendly.

So with just doing the roughing out of the top of the saucer, I was not happy with the bridge was and it was bugging me to hell.
I was just going to rough out the basic shape, but I got into the grove and just went out and detailed it.
I plan to detail the B/C Deck and then get back to roughing out the rest of the ship.
With that said, he is the updated version of the bridge.

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Excellent work, Dean!  Wow!

Thanks Eric. It was fun to do.

Dude, that looks awesome. I think you nailed it. :)

Thanks Chris.

looks great. it looks like a solid styrene modle. I wanna paint it. :P

Thanks.

I have added the details to the B/C deck.
Not to sure on the lounge windows. They don't seem to be the right shape, and I have rebuilt them about four times. I think this is the close to what was actually used.

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Next I am going to start work on the lower side of the saucer.

Looks good, bro. Here's a really good shot of the windows.

Dean, very, very good work!

pretty frekin sweet man

Thanks Guy.

Chris thank, I had been working of the blueprints which are not great and it has the out windows slated.
As I have not set the Boolean on those windows I can make the corrections.

This page is your friend:

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/trek/movietech.htm

I knew of that site but could not remember the name.
Thank for the link, that will come in hand for this build and when I do the Enterprise B.

Yeah, they've got some nice hardware references.

yeah never rely on blueprints or plans as none of them are 100%. Best is to compare to an existing 3d model or utilize perspective photos and match them. Most plans for the older ships are decades old now and were done via vhs tapes or memory or worse old magazine photos. It is how that mount for the 33" tos model ended up with a tonne of fan ships with turrets and other funny sensor nodes on the bottom of the ships.

I have to say I like the gradual curve the angled top windows produce. It would also lend to a more dramatic interior view. So I would say it depends on how close you want this to the filming miniature.

Somewhere there are a tonne of christies photos and a group set in B&W and color. I think the site is defunct though but someone should have them hosted. I have some from mike Emery (file index KG_MD_PL_1701-A-XXX)
I need to find the site but I could sear those mark Dickson ones are available in a much higher rez. 
I think both are available at modeler magic.

If I have time I could look to see where I could dump my dir en masse. Dunno if Imgur is still viable cause of all the spam and likely disabled zip option.

Ok I was gonna zip the entire dir up but it is 1gig. . . . . . lol
Uploaded it to a reference threat in GD

I use a combination of schematics and photos. Like MKF said, I don't like to rely on blueprints solely, due to inaccuracies.

Well if Dan likes the windows as they, I am going to leave them as they are.
After all his builds and window designs are out of this world. ;)


I'll check out those ref you posted a bit later when I got the time.

Well, you probably know my stance on sticking to "canon." If you like it, then that's how it should be. After all, it's your model. :)

Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 28, 2019, 01:15 pmWell, you probably know my stance on sticking to "canon." If you like it, then that's how it should be. After all, it's your model. :)

There is a great deal of truth to that statement!

and that is why all you brave 'nut jobs' build cannon stuff ( in the nicest way ).
I stick safely to my original universe stuff as much as I can. LOL

Quote from: Prime_8 on Jun 29, 2019, 01:54 pmand that is why all you brave 'nut jobs' build cannon stuff ( in the nicest way ).
I stick safely to my original universe stuff as much as I can. LOL

LOL!  You're far braver by creating your own universe and making software so that people can interact with it.  Bravo!

Thanks to MadKoiFish, for kindly making his Reference martial on Refit Connie availableI have been able to use the model blueprints by Big Jim Slade. These are much better than the one I had been using to this point and been very helpful with the building of the lower Navigation and sensor dome.

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Next I am going to work on the gridlines on the top and bottom of the source and then I can start on the impulse engines.

Great job on the planetary sensor, Dean. :)

Hm, I never really looked at Big Jim Slade's plans before. I was aware of them, I just never clicked on them. They're really nice plans. Thanks for the tip on that one. :)

Beautiful work, Dean!  Great job!

Thanks Guys.

The ones in Dan file was very light, so I could barely see them in Blender.
So I took each one into Photoshop and increased the contrast and problem solved. ;)


Okay with that said, What do you guys think of the grid lines?
Are they too deep or too wide?

The picture was render with BLender interal Render as with my lighting set up in Cycle it did not show up as well.

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Well, kind of like Big Jim, your images are rather light.  I think everything looks good, but I think a medium grey working texture might help us see a little better.  Or a clay texture.

Still, I can see it well enough to think that this looks TERRIFIC!

The lines seem a bit on the thick side to me.

Corrected.
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Moving on to do the lower hull.

Not only is that easier to see, but that is SPECTACULAR!

The lines look great, bro.

Thanks guys

yeah looks great man

Thanks Scott.

Update coming soon.

I have model out the Phaser turrets. The ones on the filming model was just a ball with a hole in it.
So I have added a bit of details to mine. They have all placed into the correct position.
I have also modelled the RCS thrusters. Again the filming model was lacking in details on this and I am not sure if I should add a bit more details to mine or just leave it as it is.
Finally I have added the cuts-outs to the rim of the saucer.

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Thinks let to do on the saucer.
1. Finished of the grid lines and cuts out to the lower saucer.
2. Cut in the windows.
3. Model and add the Airlock to the rim of the saucer.
4. Model the Impulse Engines.
5. Model ship name.
6. Texture.

looks great.  the phasers reminded me of old passenger jet air nozzles. I can't find old one but new ones are still pretty close.

Looking great, Dean.

Dean, you're doing a great job!

Scott, I thought the exact same thing.

Chris, I agree!

Thanks Guys.

Scott, after I had finished modelling it and put it into place I though the same thing. LOL.

it's an efficient mounting system if you think about it

Okay, I have finished off the grid on the under side of the source and cut in the windows that are mirror.
But before I apply the mirror modifier to cut in the rest of the windows, I was going to do the airlock on the source.
I was looking at the reference photos of the filming model and noticed that there is not an airlock on both sides.
Was this done as they planned to only film the ship form one side like they did in TOS (Even though they did film it from both sides for TMP.) and leave the detail off or was this done on purpose?

If anyone know the answer I would be grateful so that I apply it both side or just one.

Update picture will be coming soon.

As far as I know, it was done on purpose. The one in the saucer edge is different, and seems to be designed specifically for docking with space stations. The Reliant also only has one on the port side.

It seems a bit daft to have it only on one side, as it would cause issues if you needed to dock two ship together.
But then looking at it, it appear the doors are between decks leading me to believe that there much be a ramp from the two decks leading to it. That would also be a waste of space inside of the ship and it would be doubled if the airlock was on both sides.

I addressed this on SFM, but I will here too. The non canon info on that port is that it's specifically for connecting gangway (jet bridge) ramps, and nothing else. If that's the case, it's totally useless unless docked with a station using a gangway. So, no, it's not a good design feature.

In the real world, someone was probably looking at an airport terminal and thought it would be a good idea to have that on the ship to dock with stations. It was likely carried over to the Reliant just to keep them in the same technology tree, but I've seen no evidence of those ports on other ships. People who do schematics of the Excelsior put one on the port side of its saucer, but I don't think it's actually on the model.

we seen it on Voyager, they blow out a bunch of Brog from a Cargo bay from it.
I Think the episode was Scorpion Part 2, so they are on later ships. Though saying that with the Galaxy Class every time we see her docked it was from the Neck, even with docking at DS9.

As for the Excelsior-class, I can't see anywhere for her to dock. So I am going to guess that it covered over plating that moves out the way when docking.

So to keep with logic and what we have seen I will put it on both sides.

Voyager has docking ports that are like the ones on the Enterprise-D, so they're different than the gangway hatch that the refit and Reliant have. Voyager had three on its saucer perimeter, fore, port and starboard. It also has a couple docking ports in its engineering section.

It's been two weeks since I posted an update on this build.
I not had much time to work on this project, due to work, home life and going to Silverstone last weekend for the British F1 GP.
But I did manage to get three of the six tasking left to do on the source section.
So I managed to finish off the lower source grid lines before going to Silverstone. Since coming back I got the windows cut in and do the Airlock on the rim of the source.
I was thinking of putting the airlock on both sides for logical reasons, unlike on the filming model which is only on one side.
Look at the filming model it look like it was added on for Star Trek III The Search for Spock, when the ship is in spacedock. However I have kept with the just the one, but it will not take much to add it to both sides.
With that here are the recent render showing off the work done.

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Work on this will be a little slow for the next few weeks, as the Kids are now on Summer Hols.
I am also working on another 2D project, which currently needs to take priority as I need to have it done before the 7th of August. (This is for my Step-Brothers Birthday.)

Things let to do on the saucer.
1.Finished of the grid lines and cuts out to the lower saucer.
2. Cut in the windows.
3. Model and add the Airlock to the rim of the saucer.
4. Model the Impulse Engines.
5. Model ship name.
6. Texture.

Nice work, Dean!

Thanks Eric.

pretty slick man

You're cruising right along with this build. :)

Thanks guys.
Not had a chance to work on it since the last post. I hoping to able to tomorrow!

It has been a few weeks since I last posted an update on the Enterprise Refit build.
Things has settled down at work and with the kids summer holidays coming to an end, I finally had sometime to sit down and get on with this build.

So with that said onto what I have done:
Frist up, I have modelled out the ship name and reg and placed it onto the ship. Modelling out the name was easy enough, put placing it onto the ship was a pain in the arse. There was a lot of trail and error to get it right, but I got there in the end.
Next up was modelling out the impulse engines, this went along with out any problems until I had to the panels on the top. I tired all sorts of tricks to get this right but it never did. So I had decided to go with cut out, I might go back towards the end build correct it.
I have also add Navigation lights to the saucers. I also saw looking at the references that where the impulse engine sticks out of the saucer on the side. The cut out that go round the rim stop just before the impulse engine so I have also corrected that.

I have not textured her liked I planned. I have changed my mind and decided to get back to finishing off the ship and come back later to do the texturing.

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That looks fantastic, Dean.

Thanks Eric.

yeah what eric said :P

seriously tho , looking good

Thanks P8.

Hoping to start work on the neck this week.

looking great! Mine took forever with all the nurnies and detals.. :)

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There a.. quadrangle or something like that in the impulse engine.. behind the vents.. :)

Thanks
Crap looking at that picture it look like I missed the details between the impulse vents.

Also that quadrangle thing behind the vents looks to be the light to light it.

Ship hull should be a flavor of microgramma.

Impulse is a patterning of thick and thin lines on fronted plastic. KIM the shapes behind and the lighting method. I dunno though if the color was a gel or they had a gas in the cfl.

(https://madkoifish.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/cstmpent17.jpg?w=400) (https://madkoifish.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/cstmpent17.jpg)

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Those are some sweet pics, MKF. I've read that the internal lighting was neon.

NEON CFL same thing. I think this one got a custom blown set up like the D did. I find it intresting that you can see the rim grooves inside the housing so the "ending" of those was someone masking and puttying them in.

I think the top photo was during UC or just after I think. I forget if they repainted her just for VH or not, and do not remember if they did anything for FF as much of everything was reshot or new "hero" parts. (I loath that movie so I only watched it absentmindedly maybe 3 times)

Quote from: MadKoifish on Sep 03, 2019, 09:44 pmNEON CFL same thing.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. And I wasn't looking it up at the bus stop at 7:34 in the morning. ;)

Well it says 4:34am so it could just be SUPER late. >_>

Compact Fluorescent Lamp, I think.

So yeah if you looked it up it would likely give you stilted info as everything refers to the twisted house bulbs.
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But they have more in common that the other types of fluro that I usually think of such as CCF (cold cathode fluorescent) I do not think older studio models used this though. mostly people would have seen these in a lcd or in a pc case in the early 2000s. Also I think when the smith xrayed the refirbed connie it had a few of those house CFLs in.

Yeah, I'm in Eastern time. And, for me, 4:30 AM isn't late at all. I work from 10 PM to 7 AM. So, I'd just gotten off work and was a bit tired. I usually roll into bed around 10-something to 11-ish AM, then get up at 5 PM to do it all again. ;)

That's one thing I like about people giving me this kind of info rather than looking it up, the info is usually better organized and more relevant to the discussion when you or someone else who knows about this stuff just tells me.

No update on the Refit Connie build. I am currently banging my head against all with that.
I am currently modelling the neck. As there are no decent plans on how to build it, I am having to use reference pictures. As soon as I get one bit sorted I see an issue somewhere else and correct that. I scrapped what I have built three times so far, but each version is getting closer to how it should look.

With that said, I wanted to take a break from the ship and model something nice and quick.
This is a nice and easy project and the modelling is almost done and should be ready for textures tomorrow.
So here is a sneak Peek, If anyone can guess what it is they win a Cookie. ;)

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Type 15 Shuttlepod. Looks great, bro.

Yeah, the neck on the Connie refit is a pain.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Sep 26, 2019, 09:05 amType 15 Shuttlepod. Looks great, bro.

Yeah, the neck on the Connie refit is a pain.

Nice pickup!  I agree, that's what this looks like!

Spot on Chris.
I guess I should have gone for a more obscure part of the shuttle. LOL

I studied this shuttle several years ago and did a TNG era one based on it. So, for me, I'm not sure there is a more obscure part of it.

Challenge Accepted!

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Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten it with that. ;)

Yeah I thought that would make it harder. LOL!

The outside is pretty much done, I only got a few small things left to do.
This is not an accurate model of the one used for the show. Reason being is that I hated how sharp the edges are on that, when the reset of Starfleet ships shuttle have a are more rounded look for this era. So I just softened the edge on this I think it look much better.
I might have to remodel the nacelles as they have kept the sharp edges of the original shuttle.
Given the large front port on her, I think I'll have to model and interior to go with it.

Lastly, There are no textures applied to this model it all martials. So everything you are seeing has been modelled.

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OK, I know I commented on this, but I guess the forum ate it. (I check to make sure it wasn't over at SFM, it's not)

Anyway, it looks great, bro.

The reason for the very squared off sides and hard edges were to make the full scale version easier and cheaper to construct. After all, they didn't want a repeat of the Type 7 shuttle.

Excellent work, Dean!  This looks great!

Thanks Guys.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Sep 28, 2019, 10:03 amThe reason for the very squared off sides and hard edges were to make the full scale version easier and cheaper to construct. After all, they didn't want a repeat of the Type 7 shuttle.

Yeah Figured that was the case, Also the box with the deflector at the bottom was not part of the original design.
I guess that was added so they could hid the wheels to move it around the set.

As my type 15 shuttle needs an interior I was going to pull parts off the Type 7 shuttle I build earlier in the year.
So I imported the whole shuttle over and added a figure for scale. Now I have always know that there are issue with scaling in Star Trek.
But I noticed a huge difference here.
The Type 7 shuttle show in TOS always had a larger interior to the shuttle that the crew climbed into. The reason for this was that it was cheaper to make it smaller than the size it was meant to be. (when watching it on screen you always saw them ducking to get though the door and take their seats. Yet when we saw them on the inside they could stand with no issues.)
With this is in mind it has general been agreed the scaling for this ship is a mix between the two different sets. Making the Type 7 8.5 meters long, 3.6 meters wide and 2.7 meters high which is what my model is.
However the dimensions given for the type 15 are 3.6 meter long, 2.4 meter wide and 1.6 meters high.
When I compared it with the Type 7 it looked way to small. Yes I know it a small shuttle but that way to small when you also add the person that I use at a height of 6 foot or 1.8 meter.
This does not match to what was seen on screen.
Johnathan Frakes is 6.3 in height and he is roughly as tall as the set they used.

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This picture also helps with the scaling though I have no idea how tall the Doug Drexler is. (I that's him in the picture.)

(http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/type15-shuttle/shuttle15-drexler2.jpg)

So with that I have now rescaled the Type 15 to match roughly with what was seen on screen making it, 4.3 meter long, 2.7 meters wide and 1.9 meter high.
This is what it look like after rescaling and it looks much better and realistic.

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I agree.  Nice work!

Thanks Eric.

Just a simple interior for the shuttle, as I have no plans to actually see inside except though the "windscreen"
I am happy with the same of the chairs, but if I was to do this properly I would have to figure out how to show the chair having a cushion on it. At present it looks a little on the hard side.

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It looks good, bro. You definitely don't need more than that if it's only going to be seen through the windows.

excellent work, Dean!

It has been some time since I posted an updated on this build. This is mainly due to life getting in the way and was unable to get onto the computer that I was building this on.

With that said onto the updates.

I started to build the neck but kept running into issues, which meant that I had to scrap what I was doing and start again.
This is something like the tenth attempt at it where I am actually happy, Though the edges could be soften a little.
I have also added a little detail to it like the vents and the top and bottom. I do the rest of the details soon.
I have also built the torpedoes section of the neck as well, this went a lot smooth and I am happy with where it is at the moment.

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Before I start to add all the details to this area, I want to block out the secondary hull first.

Excellent work, Dean!

That looks really good. The neck area of this ship is a lot harder to get right than it seems at first glance.

Thanks

Quote from: scifidude79 on Oct 24, 2019, 12:30 pmThat looks really good. The neck area of this ship is a lot harder to get right than it seems at first glance.

Yeah it got some little curved shapes to it that you don't notice from a distance, but as you get close to you notice them.
They where a freaking killer to get right, but I think I got there.

Yup, aside from the obvious curves, there are the subtle curves throughout the sides. But, that's how modeling Star Trek is. People might think it's simple until they see all of the nice subtle curvature.

I started this straight after I had finished the Type 15 shuttle, but I be working on the Refit Connie and dealing with issues at home.
Anyway with that said onto the Model.
The Modelling of the Nacelles are done, though there is one bit of detail still to add to it.
I have also blocked out the main shape of the hull and built the impulse engine housing. I found this quite pain to get right, this was mainly due to the shape for the Air Intake? at the front.
After a few false start I have got it to a point where I am happy with it.

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Nice work!

That looks great so far.

Thanks Guys.

Back to the Enterprise.

Windows to the neck has been cut in.
I found some issue with the torpedo section at the rear, which has now been fixed. I have also added all the details for the torpedo launchers and I have started shaping out the secondary hull.
I have also added in the Airlock, I have used the one from the B/C Deck so that size stays constant. I am in two minds on weather to cut in the hull panels for the neck or to Texture them.

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Great job, Dean!

Thanks Eric.

Quote from: Freak on Nov 04, 2019, 12:43 pmThanks Eric.

Well deserved, my friend!

Just a small update.

I have spent the last two days working on the rear of the secondary hull. I got most of the shape down pretty quickly.
The biggest issue I had was with the "nibble" thing that sits at the back above the clamshell door of the hanger.
The shaping of that was a pain to get right, it still not right at the moment but it close to how it meant to be.
I was banging my head trying to get it right, I tired also sorts of thing but it was just not working. In the end I had to individual move each vert into place.
As I said it closer to how it should look but it still not right and driving me a little crazy so I am going to move on and work on the front half of the secondary hull.

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I will also be updating my progress on the Type 6 Shuttle soon, I just need to do a few more details to the rear before I post the next update on that.

That's not a small update, that's a lot of work to get right and it looks like you nailed it.

Thanks Chris.
It's close but not excite. It a real pain in the Arse to get right.

Oh yeah, I remember that nightmare. You got it closer than I ever did when I'd had enough f***ing with it.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Nov 09, 2019, 01:10 pmThat's not a small update, that's a lot of work to get right and it looks like you nailed it.

I was going to say the same thing.

I think it is good work, Dean!  Well done.

Thanks Eric.

Really nicely done Freak.  It is a real bugger to do.  I bet I restarted my shuttle area 30 times before I got something I was happy with.  And like you, it is not exact but it will do.

Thanks Tralfaz.

More work on the Type 6 Shuttle.

I have cut in the windows and panels onto the side of the ship. Modelled the rear door and the impulse engines.
I have also put in the side RCS thrusters. Still need to add some to the top and bottom, though I am not sure the shuttle built for the hanger bay set and the model used in the show actually had them.
I have also added some simple materials for now and plan to do some proper ones. I also checked to make sure that scale on this is right.
With the scale given I found a few issues, which have been corrected, however this dose mean that my shuttle is a little longer and not as wide. I'll post the dimensions when I do the orthros.
I have also include a render of the Type 15 to show the scale different between the two.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/191111-00-type-6.png)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/191111-01-type-6.png)

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All that is now left apart from what I have mentioned is the bottom of the shuttle and the pylons connecting the nacelles.
I also need to add the shuttle name and reg, like the type 15 I plan to model this out so saving on having to do textures.
I also need to do a simple interior to be seen though the windows.

It's looking great, Dean. :)

It does indeed look great!

Do you need textures?  I always remember the TNG stuff being fairly clean.

Thanks Guys.

Finally I have finished building the Type 6 shuttle. This took a little longer than I was planning but it is done.
while not on the original model I have add a couple of RCS thruster to the top and bottom. (there should be some there which is why I have put them in.)
I have also modelling a very basic interior, again I don't plan on getting to close to see inside.
I have also done a lighting test to see what it would like in the darkness of space.
Finally I have also done a Render of all the shuttle I have built so far. I have not include my Type 11 which I built a few years ago as that need to be redone.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/191121-00-type-6.png)

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Will be doing an Orthros sheet like I have done with the other and also making a few beauty picture before moving onto another shuttle.
I think I will build the Type 7 next, though depending on how much feather I get with the TMP Enterprise I might do the TMP Type 5 shuttle.

Very cool!

It looks great. The additional RCS thrusters make sense.

Thanks guys.

It been nearly two months since I done any work on this.
But since it the holiday season and I am off work, I finally had time to sit down and get some work done.
I have been working on the front of the secondary hull adding in the details and the RCS.
I might have to redo that as I think it a bit to forward.

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Before starting to work on detailing the rest of the Secondary Hull, I am going to start modelling the warp nacelles and the pylons first.
Once that is in place I will go back to finish off the details.

Quote from: Freak on Jan 02, 2020, 10:11 amIt been nearly two months since I done any work on this.
But since it the holiday season and I am off work, I finally had time to sit down and get some work done.
I have been working on the front of the secondary hull adding in the details and the RCS.
I might have to redo that as I think it a bit to forward.

Before starting to work on detailing the rest of the Secondary Hull, I am going to start modelling the warp nacelles and the pylons first.
Once that is in place I will go back to finish off the details.

It all looks great, Dean!  Nice work!

Thanks Eric.

The work you're doing on this model looks great, Dean.

Thanks Chris.

looks good to me.

Thanks P8

Just a quick update on TMP Enterprise. I have not really be able to work on it. I am building it on a PC at home that the whole family uses.
My Son will be taking his GCSE this year, so with that he is spending every free moment on that machine revising for the tests he will be taking in June/ July. My other machine is not powerful enough for it.

Anyway with that said on to my other build, The Type 7 Shuttle form Star Trek: The Next Generation.
I have modelled the warp nacelles and pylons for them. I have knocked out the basic shape of the main hull, however I getting the shaping right or the rear end of it to be a right pain in the arise. (The white section.) It is a separate object and must of modelled it about 20 times.
I am still no happy with it as I keep finding error, I still need to model the bottom section of this. Which you can see in the front view picture. This is all dark as there is currently nothing there.
But for now here is where it stand.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/00-type-7-shuttle.png)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/01-type-7-shuttle.png)

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That's looking really nice. It's a complex shape that's probably not easy to get without errors.

That looks really good, Dean!  Excellent work!

Thanks Guys.

Yeah it a really Pain in the arse, it sapped the will to continue.
So I need to take a break from it as it driving me mad. As I have not done a 2d pin up picture since last year, I am working on one now (Non Trek Related.). As soon as I have finished that I plan to come back to this refreshed.

Hey, we all need a change of pace sometime!

problems compounded by compound-compound compounded curves. :P

looks pretty cool all the same man.

Thanks P8

That thing is covered in smooth curves leading to tight precise edges.
that's what the TNG era brought us.

Quote from: Prime_8 on Feb 03, 2020, 03:37 pmThat thing is covered in smooth curves leading to tight precise edges.
that's what the TNG era brought us.

That's what Andrew Probert brought us. :)

I have completely redone the main hull and included the rear bump and the warp nacelle pylons, which where all separate items before.
I used Sub D tool to get this, which is something I don't normally use when modelling. But to get the shape right I had to bit the bullet and use it.
Not to sure on the back end where the pylons join with the Hull, so I need to look for some decent references for that.
In the mean time here is where she stands.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/200310-type-7-shuttle-00-1.png)

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Very nice work, and I wanted to ask if you were using subdivision surface.  Well done!

I don't see how you could even do a shape like that without subdivision surface.

Looks great, Dean.

looks shmooth and clean dude

Quote from: scifieric on Mar 10, 2020, 10:17 pmVery nice work, and I wanted to ask if you were using subdivision surface.  Well done!

Thanks Eric, I try to stay clean from it, as it only like quads and throws up error when you have a tri-face.
It can be a right pain in the arse modelling something where can simple put a tri in, but using the Sub D you got to make it a quad with out buggering up the rest of the shape.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Mar 10, 2020, 10:35 pmI don't see how you could even do a shape like that without subdivision surface.

Looks great, Dean.

Thanks Chris, I think I came close on my first attempt. But it that rear end which is a killer.
I had no chose but to go with it.

Quote from: Prime_8 on Mar 10, 2020, 11:55 pmlooks shmooth and clean dude

Thanks P8.
There where a few error that needed sorting out. mainly around the nacelle Pylon, but I got it sorted.

when teh end product has to be smooth with tight shape an silhouette, keeping errors in the mesh down is a chore for sure .

it's looking good . look like a days worth of shaping and sanding rendshape in the shop by hand.
( rendshape is a prototyping wood substitute that has uniform grain and various densities can be picked for carving and machining )

Hmm not sure how I missed your comment P8, but thanks.

With the current crisis affecting the western world. My son who was going to take his GCSE exams this years, is no longer going to be doing it. (Not sure how they are going to get their grades so he can go off the College in September.)
This means that he is no longer hogging the PC I am currently building the Refit Enterprise.
So with that I have been able to jump on and do some long over due work on her.
I have built the nacelles and all the shaping is now done. I still need to add details to it but it mostly done.
Anyway here where it stands at the moment.

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Dean, that's ... that's gorgeous!

Yes that is lovely

It looks great. That's a deceptively complex design.

Thanks guys.

Yeah it was very interesting to model. But I am happy with what I got so far.

Modelling of the Nacelles is now completed and put into position.
Next I will be working on the pylons for them, once that is done I will go back to the engineering hull and finishing off the details. Windows etc.

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I also need to get back to modelling the shuttle.
The type 7 is the last of the shuttle to appear on TNG, but a Runabout was also shown in one episode. Should I model that so I have all Starfleet shuttle that appear on TNG?

Looks great, Dean. Doing a runabout sounds cool. As you said, it's in the episode "Timescape."

dang pylons.  even in ORG universe stuff they can be fussy

Dean, this may be the best model you've ever made.  Well done.

Quote from: Prime_8 on Mar 27, 2020, 11:43 pmdang pylons.  even in ORG universe stuff they can be fussy

The pylons on this ship are an extra special level of fun. Not only are they a nice mix of curves and flats that flow into the engineering hull, but they also have a subtle curve throughout the length. Of course, I don't see this being a major problem for Dean, as he already did the neck and it's the same way.

Thanks guys.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Mar 27, 2020, 10:45 pmLooks great, Dean. Doing a runabout sounds cool. As you said, it's in the episode "Timescape."

Yeah I think I will, though I can't remember which version of the Runabout they used. So there the excuses to rewatch the episode before I build it. ;)

Quote from: Prime_8 on Mar 27, 2020, 11:43 pmdang pylons.  even in ORG universe stuff they can be fussy

It more the section that connects to the engineering hull that I am worried about.
but it going to be fun to build. :)

yeah joining bodies is a strange task sometimes in poly land no matter what app you use.
I hate when I get the shape how I like it and it forces me to re-topo' the area at the joints.

looking good man.

The Pylons for nacelles are now modelled.
I had a few issues with this due to the shape and issues with the cuts as you can see below.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/fails-starts.jpg)

Mainly the cut-out where to small or not in the correct position.
I have now corrected that and also moved the pylon back a bit on the nacelle has it was to far forwards.

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Next up is cutting in the windows and adding details to the secondary hull.

Also on a side note. I was going to get back to work on the type 7 TNG shuttle, but I have seemed to delete it of my computer and the back up. Ops.
Not a major issue as I still have a copy of the latest version. It is on a USB Stick, however I have left that at work and currently get to it. Not to worry I have found some really good plan of the Runabout from DS9.
I have started to model that but it not yet at a point to show anything.
I have started to model that but it not yet at a point to show anything

ha nice healthy dose of vitamin T  for the day .


Looking great man .

Thanks P8

Dean, that is terrific work, so far!

Well done!

Sorry about the lost shuttle.  (Sounds like an episode title: The Lost Shuttle!)

Thanks Eric.
It a pain, if we where not on LOCKDOWN I could just pick up when I went into work.
I'm just kicking myself for leaving the USB stick there as I was in such a rush to get back home.

She's looking great, Dean. Those pylons are definitely tricky but, as with everything else with this ship, you handled them beautifully.

Thanks Chris.

As I have built or building all the Starfleet shuttle that appeared in The Next Generation.
I only have the Runabout form Deep Space Nine left to do along with the Type 7.
As I can't work on the Type 7 at the moment, I have decided to start work on the Runabout.
For those not in the know, the Runabout only appeared in one episode of TNG which was the season 6 episode called "Timescape".
The reason the Runabout was used only for one episode of TNG, was because at the time DS9 had spent their budget for the year (part of the budget was used to pay off the set building for season 1). They still had thing they wanted to build for future episode. One of these things was the rear sets for the Runabout. As TNG still had a huge chuck of it budget to build new sets, the producer used the TNG budget. But to justify it, it had to be used for a TNG episode which is where we get the "Timescape".
As a funny side note, the set was never used as original built for on DS9. However it was used for parts of the Defiant when that was introduce the following year.
Over the last week I been looking around the web for good reference material and I have got a small collection that should be helpful in this build. The Runabout is far more detailed than I remember so it not going to be a quick build like the other shuttle have been.
I have just blocked out the basic shape of the main hull and the clamps for the mission pod's
Still to block out the pylons and warp nacelles. Once that it done I should be ready to star getting into the cutting out the windows and door and also start details her up.
With that said onto the Pic's

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Excellent work, Dean!

Looking good so far, Dean. :)

Thanks guys.

Just a small update.
I have blocked out all the main components. This little ship is now ready to start getting detailed.
I am going to start off the nacelles and then most likely move onto doing the main cockpit area.
This should be a interesting build as this ship has lots of hull panels.

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The shapes all look good. This little ship definitely has a lot of details. I think that was because these were the main ships on DS9 at first and were intended to be seen up close for longer duration than previous shuttles.

he said it best :

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HTYUmU67pLWv1a8/giphy.gif
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Thank Scott.
Next update on the runabout will be coming shortly.

I have modelled all the external parts of the nacelles. I have just slapped on place holder materials.
I am happy with the way it has turned out, though work is still not done.
I need to model the Bussard collector. As we have never actually seen this I think I going to go with a mixture of what was shown in the Deep Space Nine Technical Manual and bower some ideas form Madkoifish, as he has come up with some excellent designs over the years.

So with this in mind, it will mean having to add some texture as well. I am thinking of texturing this as I go along. Instead of modelling everything then go back.
From the other stuff I have done, it always looks a little flat.
So any Blender heads out there that can give me ideas on how to make it really pop, I would be grateful.

With that said onto the Pictures.

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The nacelles look great, Dean.

yeah tight ship

Thanks Guys

The nacelles are now done and proper materials have been added.
I know I said I was going to do a detailed Bussard Collector, while modelling it and putting the cover over it.
All the details I had worked on could not be seen and would never would be. So a stripped all the details out and kept the basic shape to save on un-needed Verts.

So here are a couple of lighting test.
the first is just the nacelles and the Second is with the rest of the runabout added, though it did not make much of a difference.
Just some reflection of the main hull. Once I have add a proper Materials to it, hopefully look much better.

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Here is what it looks like with the lights on. Over all I am happy with the way it has turned out, though I am not completely sold on the Grey Hull material. What do you guys think.

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Next I will be working on the winglets and we will see where we go from there.

I think it looks good, Dean!

Yep, it's looking good.

looks great mang.

Thanks Guys

I have started work on the cockpit area.
Cutting out main windows was real pain to get right, but I am really happy with the way it turned out.
I have modelled the winglets and also the gabbles that are just above them. That took a few try's to get right.
Though when added the details for the blocks that gose round the hull at the back of the cockpit, it was far easier to do.
I have also modelled the bottom area where that cut out is. Put the gabbles in and this turn out far better than I expected.
Materials have been add.

All that is left to do for the cockpit is add the gabbles to the top and cut in the panels.
Then I can move onto the next area.

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Very, very cool!

Those details are looking great. The whole ship is looking nice so far.

Thanks Guys.

proper details give it a better feel for the size.

Okay I think I can now say that the cockpit area is done.
The Hull Grey material that is currently on won't be final. Looking at reference photos, it looks like the different panel have a different shades. So I am going to knock up a different colours to be added so that it keeps that look.

I have added micro torpedo launchers under the main cockpit. Official they sit in winglets, but I never liked that. Going off the Deep Space Nine Technical Manual the Micro Torpedo is only 12 centimetre's in length. Which would do nothing to a normal size ship with a full shields.
Especially when a full size torpedo (Which slightly larger than a person. As seen in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.)
So with that in mind I made mine larger and because of this it won't fit into the winglets. This is why I have moved it.

I was asked on Scifi-Meshes if I was going to build the interior of the cockpit. I never planned to.
But given the amount of work I have put into this, it would be a shame not to do it. So something to do once I have finished building her.

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looking good man.

The panel lines look good even at a distance

Excellent work, Dean!  Keep going!

Quote from: Prime_8 on Apr 16, 2020, 07:52 pmlooking good man.

The panel lines look good even at a distance

Thanks, they where a pain to cut in, as the gap between the panel is the same. (might be off a mm or two.)
So was very time consuming. But they did turn out nice.

Quote from: scifieric on Apr 16, 2020, 10:36 pmExcellent work, Dean!  Keep going!

Thanks Eric, I was going to move back to the Enterprise. With all those panel cuts outs, I was feeling a little drained.
But you have motivate me to keep going.


The question now is which part to move onto?
Move onto the warp drive? Carry on with the Main hull? or do the pylons?
Either one its going to be a lot of work. but it will be fun. ;)

Personally, I would keep moving back from the nose and do the main hull next. But, that's just me.

Yeah I am think the same thing.
I also want to get back to my refit Enterprise.

Anyway I was looking over the blue prints and I noticed that I made a mistake with the panel on the bottom of the nose.

So here it is corrected.

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Nice. Going back and redoing it is totally a choice I'd have made too.

blueprints .. I am rarely brave enough to work form blue prints

Chris, I think it look much better than what I had done.

Scott, it all come down to the artist and what works for them.
with my own stuff I wing it, but when it something like this. I like to use blueprints.

I have completed working on the warp sled.
It took a lot longer than I expected, this was mainly due to faddily shapes.
I am not too happy with one part of the RCS thruster at the back. It not sitting right with me.
But saying that it is the right shape.

Anyway with this part now done, it on to the model the module pod and the rest of the main hull.

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Extremely complex-looking and well done!

It looks great. A lot of the shapes on the old physical models are a pain to get right.

Thanks Guys.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Apr 29, 2020, 12:08 amIt looks great. A lot of the shapes on the old physical models are a pain to get right.

That the truth, I lost count how many times I remodel parts because the shapes where funky.

it's looking like something that needs to be sent to a 3d printer.

Quote from: Prime_8 on May 02, 2020, 11:35 amit's looking like something that needs to be sent to a 3d printer.

NICE idea!

Quote from: Prime_8 on May 02, 2020, 11:35 amit's looking like something that needs to be sent to a 3d printer.

Thanks Scott, I can't think of a higher compliment.

You got a 3d printer don't you?

It would be sweet if you could get it printed and put it on your desk. :)

Quote from: scifidude79 on May 04, 2020, 11:18 amIt would be sweet if you could get it printed and put it on your desk. :)

I completely agree with that!

i do indeed , it cna do  about 2 inch cubed by volume with good resolution .

I have not run it in some time, my filaments might be all over humid or  dried out.

but yeah i think i will be setting it back up soon . i have a lap top i can devote to it as a brain .
It will work automatically from SD card too but i have not had much success that way .

I haz one of these , and a much bigger home brew one that is  NFG ( the one i scratch built has issues )

I really need to get it setup on my new rig too .

My home brew one is just not good enough . it needs better lead screws and such // also so long ago i forgot where i was with it. Maybe next winter i will pick it up again and get it working.

and

Fantastic work, Scott!

i wanna get my wee one up and printing again

They are getting cheaper in some types.

creality 10, and some other nice big ones have my eye. one day. LOL

Nice Scott, I can't watch the Vid's as the PC I am on at the moment has no speakers.

If you want once I have finished building this girl, I can send you the file over to you. You can give it a shot at printing it.

Oh man.  When the detail on home units is great enough and the price is low enough, I may purchase a unit and make my own models.  Man, that would be great.

It been a while since I posted an update on this.
I have been working on the rest of the main hull. The Module Pod, is now done. The modelling on this went quickly. It was cutting in the panel lines that was taking the time, this was also the case with the rear half the main hull.
The main hull has been split into the separate parts so if I want to do a picture with the Module section removed I can.

I am now starting close the finishing line with that. Just need to add details to the pylon and check to see if I have missed any details and sort them out.

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It's great to see that you're back at it, Dean. The details look fantastic.

This is MOST excellent work, Dean!  Well done!

it's like the ultimate space RV next to the one form space balls.

but seriously great stuff man .

Thanks Guys.

LOL @Prime_8 you crack me up!

The Pylons are now done, lots of trail and errors with cutting out the panels. But it turned out fine.
The biggest difference, between mine and the official model is that on mine I have added a cut out. This cut out is for the additional pod to connect to. IE Weapons Pod, AWAC Pod or science Pod.
I just did not like something like having a connection point that is flushed with the hull. So I have added the cut out and put some gribbles in there so it look like a proper connection points

So with that, the main modelling is now done. I still need to add the reg and the Starfleet logos but that won't take long.
I also need to fix a couple of errors again that won't take long either.

I still have no idea how I am going to texture this thing, so that will interesting.
As for the weapons pod, yes I will be modelling that as well.

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And just for fun, here is a render of ship with just glass material applied to it.

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Dean, that looks SPECTACULAR!

You've been doing great work for years, but I think this might be your best model ever, Dean.

Quote from: scifidude79 on May 23, 2020, 12:57 pmYou've been doing great work for years, but I think this might be your best model ever, Dean.

I agree!

Thanks Guys

Quote from: scifidude79 on May 23, 2020, 12:57 pmYou've been doing great work for years, but I think this might be your best model ever, Dean.

Thanks Chris that mean a lot.

It funny, I was looking over the few models I finished before I took the five year plus break from modelling and though they look like crap. Hell I though that way when I was building them, epically when you saw the work form Al3d, Andrew March, Coolhand, Howard Day just to name a few.

But since I have came back, I have really found my grove with it. Still got a lot to learn. like how the hell I am going to unwarp this sucker. I also need to make the jump to Blender 2.8 otherwise I am going to start missing out on future feature as they come in. Guess I will do that on the next build.

As I am coming to a close on the Runabout build.
I though I would do a picture of the different size of Star Trek Shuttles. Going from smaller to largest.

For size refences, the person in the picture is 6ft.

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That size comparison is cool. You usually don't see those designs side by side properly scaled like that.

Thanks Chris.
Yeah it normal ships of the same era next to each other.


Once I built enough ships, I might have to do a picture / Video showing the scale of all Federation era ships, starting off with the shuttles and ending on the largest Starfleet ship/ station.
But seeing that is a lot of work, it maybe some time until I do something like that.

I was wondering if you built all of those!  Great image, Dean.  Well done.

Put into scale perspective, you can clearly see it is the correct/perfect size to be used as a fed' rock band tour buss.

seriously good work man .

Thanks Guys.

Quote from: Prime_8 on May 28, 2020, 12:02 pmPut into scale perspective, you can clearly see it is the correct/perfect size to be used as a fed' rock band tour buss.

seriously good work man .

Arr, yes Sisko and the Niners!

So while I am figuring out how I am going to texture the Runabout.
I though I would finally bit the bullet and have a little play around in Blender 2.8. After all I did say that I would do my next build in it.

Okay it got a new UI which is nice, but the two things that really bug me about it. Some of the shortcuts no longer work, so what you could do in seconds you now have to go hunting for and on top of that it no longer has a short cut. The other thing that bugging me is that they have change names as well.
Before If you have duplicate verts on a object and you wanted to get rid of them you simple selected all the Verts, press W and then select "Remove Doubles". Job done.
But now you got select all the Verts, click on Meshes go down to Clean up and select "Merge by Distance".

Who the F though it would be a good idea to call it "Merge by Distance"?
I spent 45 mins looking for Remove Doubles and finally had to look it up on youtube.
Anyway here is the results of a half a days working in Blender 2.8. (could have done this in no time in 2.79 but hopeful as I get to know 2.8 things will speed up.)

The little black dot on the saucer is the six foot man seen in my pervious scale pics. gives you an idea of the size of this thing.

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Here is a quick pic of all my official Trek ship to scale.
The refit Connie and the Oberth Class are not finished.

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Now to stop messing around and get back to finished them off.

Looking good. The refit Connie is much closer to completion. (just saying)

Thanks, yeah it nearly there.
Most of the main modelling is done, it just the small details and cutting in the windows on the secondary Hull and Neck.

Yeah, you're almost there. In my opinion, it would make the most sense to finish that model first. Then, you can have one in the "done" column and go back to the Oberth and figuring out the mess they made in Blender 2.8. ;)

Quote from: Freak on May 30, 2020, 07:06 am(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/all-models-to-scale.png)

Now to stop messing around and get back to finished them off.

Why in god's name have you not been making pictures with your original series Enterprise?  That looks GREAT!  Yes, I know you still have some small amount of detail to put on the model, but for the love of ... finish that one!  Wow!

Eric, Which one the original or the refit?
The Original is finished, but you're I do need to do more pictures with her.

Someone over on Scifi-Meshes.com said that the runabout dose not need to be textures, as I have put in enough details.
I was only planning to weather the ship, I am going to leave it for now as I can always come back to it.

Anyway, I have given the runabout a registration number and name. As the Runabout are all named after Earth rivers, I have kept this up, with giving it the name Severn. This named after the River Severn here in the UK which is also the longest in the UK.
I would have called it a day there. But the Runabout can have also a module pod attached. So I have modelled this as well.

Right time to make some pictures with this and then get back to Refit Enterprise.

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You could overlay your materials with a procedural for weathering.

The runabout and pod both look great as is, though.

Quote from: Freak on Jun 01, 2020, 01:01 pmEric, Which one the original or the refit?
The Original is finished, but you're I do need to do more pictures with her.

The original.  I'd love to see what you do with it.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 01, 2020, 01:27 pmYou could overlay your materials with a procedural for weathering.

The runabout and pod both look great as is, though.

I was going to say the same thing!

Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 01, 2020, 01:27 pmYou could overlay your materials with a procedural for weathering.

How do I do that? When it comes to Texturing my knowledge is very basic.


Eric, I will crack out some pictures soon.

I'd have to mess around with Blender to remember how to do procedurals in that way, but it shouldn't be terribly difficult.

After having a little break after finishing the Runabout build, I am now back to work on the refit Connie.
Not much to show, I have resided the Reg on the nacelles and cut in the Panels, airlock and windows on the secondary hull.
I have also model the "tail" from the neck running down the secondary hull back.
All that is left to do now is add the light cut out that shine on the pylons.
Add the phaser nibbles, detail the side of the hanger bay entrance and add the reg marking on the secondary hull.

Once I have done all that I'll check to see if I have missed anything and get on that.
I will then install all the lights so the ship can be seen in space and box model some location behind the windows. I'll just put a light and nothing else, though I might do something different for the arboretum.

Then I can move on to correcting the material colours and get onto the textures.
Also do another set of Reg Marking so I can swap it out for the Ent-A.

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Very pretty!

It looks great. :)

looks great.

procedurals are pretty easy now .. but its kind of situation where there are many tools.

and other is to paint directly on the mesh. blender can do that well now . it's a small bit of setup tp let blender do teh uniform unwrap .

Thanks Guys.

She almost done, just a few odds and ends left to do now. I should have an update by the end of the week, then I move onto the Texturing this girl.
Eric Tut on Texturing TOS Connie will be very helpful in doing this.

Quote from: Prime_8 on Jun 09, 2020, 07:29 pmprocedurals are pretty easy now .. but its kind of situation where there are many tools.

and other is to paint directly on the mesh. blender can do that well now . it's a small bit of setup tp let blender do teh uniform unwrap .

I'll have to look up some tut's for it.


So as I am coming to a close on this build I have been thinking of what to do next.
As you know my next ship build will be the Oberth Class, which should be a quick build.
After that I am thinking of doing the Excelsior Class. I'll do two version of this. The Excelsior itslef as seen in Star Trek III and VI and the refit Ent-B.

As for my next shuttle, as I can't complete all the Shuttle seen on TNG as the file for the final one is at work and I can't get in at the moment due to restriction with work saying we can't use public transport which I need to use to get in.  (The Shuttle is about about 50% completed)
I have been thinking about modifing my Type 6 TNG model into the shuttle seen in Star TreK: V TFF.

As to what I build after that, Who knows. But I still plan on building all the Enterprises. I don't think I will be building the J though as that came from one possiable future Timeline with the whole Time War thing in Enterprise and we never really got a good look at her.

The Excelsior class is always a great choice. It's a damn fine ship, one of my favorite designs.

All modelling is now done. I have added box rooms behind the windows with lighting.
I also modelled all the decals. I should have really done this in the textures, as the only thing that would be changed would the ship name and Reg, for a different ship in the class if I ever do that. But I was on a roll.

Anyway here is where is she is now.
Next is to start texturing her and I can call her done.

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*Edit* while uploading the pictures I notices I have missed the greebles on the side of the airlock on the B/C deck and the hanger bay door. Speaking of doors, I have also missed details those up so I be doing that as well.

Looks fantastic, bro. As long as you didn't stencil the name and registry on the ship, it should be fairly easy to redo that in Blender. I would think it wouldn't be any easier or harder to do in there versus a vector graphics drawing program.

That is outstanding work, Dean!

Thanks Guys.

Chris, no it not stencil on, everything you are seeing has been modelled.

Yeah, I meant stenciling as in modeling. Basically, it's an operation similar to a Booleans intersect, and you wind up with the actual markings as part of the geometry. It's something I used to do a few years ago in Lightwave, and now I regret ever doing it because the markings are a pain in the ass to remove.

Still, nice work ... both of you!

Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 16, 2020, 12:16 pmYeah, I meant stenciling as in modeling. Basically, it's an operation similar to a Booleans intersect, and you wind up with the actual markings as part of the geometry. It's something I used to do a few years ago in Lightwave, and now I regret ever doing it because the markings are a pain in the ass to remove.

Ar, I see. I do something similar.
What I do is, create the text and position it where I want it to go. Turn it into a meshes and add solid Modifier.
I then duplicate the meshes I want the texture to go onto.
I then use the Boolean tool with the text. This gives the text the same curving as the original meshes. (normal does not need a lot of clean up after this.)
Then I just slap on a shrinkwrap modifier to the new text and job done. 

Yeah that works nicely too. Plus, since it's a duplicate object, it's not actually attached to the model and is easier to change.

Yep, that's also what I tend to do these days.

I do either that or just texture it. A 4K .png image will look just as good as modeled text in most situations.

Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 17, 2020, 10:43 pmI do either that or just texture it. A 4K .png image will look just as good as modeled text in most situations.

Yep.  I get it!

I think I am close to end on building the Refit Enterprise for the Motion Picture.
I have added textures to the ship and modelled, a few extra detail.
Over all I am pretty happy with it. The Greenish panel on the are meant to be lighter but I am happy with there look.
Reading up on the actual model, they where only an off Green colour for the Motion picture before the model was repainted for Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan, and they where turned into an off blue colour.

So to tell the difference between the Original and the USS Yorktown, which would be renamed Enterprise at the end of Star Trek IV The Voyager Home. The Original has the green panels and the Enterprise A will have the off blue.
As there is no real difference between the two ships, I have also knocked up a new set of Reg for the Enterprise A.

The only things left to do are add the lighting for the external ship. I have tired modelling shapes and have them emit while being hidden from the camera. This did not work to well and it was not producing the right lighting effect.
The other way, is to use spot light lamps. The problem with this in Cycle is that you have to put the strength of the light to stupid numbers. This mean the point it start get washed out in white light, also area where I don't want the light to be up is effected.
An Example of this is one of the spot light to lighten up the top of the saucer. I can get the look just right, but because it so strong it also showing up on the nacelle's.

The other thing I am not to happy with, is the defector. I am not sure how I get the effect of it light up.
At the moment it got a mix material. (the material for the hull with an emission for the blue glow.) with a spot light to give the white glow in the centre.

So if anyone know how to do these two in Blender I would be grateful

Original Refit Enterprise

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USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A

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I think it looks great!  But what version of Blender?  The answer may be different in the latest version.

Okay, before moving onto start making pictures with these girls.
I wanted to try and recreate the lighting on the ship as seen in the movies. I have installed the lighting for saucer, Neck and the nacelles.

While it looks okay, I am not 100% happy with it in the dark. Though it does not look to bad with some environment lighting.
I am also getting a bit of firefly with the render and I got the render sample set to 2000. Any high and I am looking at stupid time to do a render. (It took over an hour for these.)

So I am currently in two minds on dropping them.
I also with the green on the original Enterprise and Blue on the A, I think they are a little to dark in colour so I am going to lighten them up.

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In other news, I am heading back into the office next week, which mean I can get my missing TNG Shuttle and finish modelling that Bad Boy.

Very cool work!

Looks good, bro.

Thanks Guys, but I am thinking on losing the external lights.
I am just not happy with them.

Setting up external lighting is a royal pain in the ass, no matter which software you're using. If you feel you don't need them, then you're definitely better off losing them.

Hm.  I agree.  If you are unhappy with them, they are your setup, do what you like!

I would recommend grabbing a couple of frame still shots from whichever movie you like and simply imitate that ... WITHOUT regard to where the lights come from.  Remember, in TMP they set up a few point sources on the model and then went wild with little mirrors and such to light it how they wanted!

Yeah, I have decided to lose the lights and just keep the ones on the saucer.
I have also changed them from lamps, to emission objects contained in a box so light so not spill into areas I don't want. Which seem to look good with Render Preview.


I have now set up a beauty shot Kicked that off. I am hoping that will look good and not to many firefly's. (The Preview had a few but I have the sample setting set to 50, while the render is set to 1000)

It makes sense to lose the lights that were causing issues. Those neck lights seem to have been dropped for the Enterprise-A anyway. You can seen where the light inside of the model was hitting the neck, but the spot was dropped. As I'm sure everyone knows, the lights were done as they were in the first film as a way of illuminating the ship in very dark scenes. However, as Star Trek progressed through the years, the frequency of scenes that dark were few and far between, and most later ships weren't done with that many lights. Most had very few lights, just on the saucer registry.

So before the Covid lockdown started I had started work on this but did not get very far.
When the lockdown took affect here in the UK, I had left the USB stick I had it saved on in the office at work. (should have really backed this thing up instead of having it on a USB stick.)
As I was unable to get into the office, I was unable to continue the work until now.
This week I was asked to head in and help out which mean I got hold of the USB stick.

While I have not done anymore work on her yet, I did not post any pictures of where she was just before the lockdown.
So here are some picture of the Type 7 shuttle.

I am going to get back to this after I have made some pic's with the Big E, this does mean that the Oberth Class will be put on hold until I have finished this.

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That is very pretty work, Dean!  Well done.

It's looking great for sure.

Thanks Guys.

Small update on this build. With heading back into the office, I am not getting a chance to work on this as much as I wanted.
Anyway, I have decided to do a cross between what was shown on screen and Andrew Probert concept.
I am not a fan of those big chunky navigation lights on the side or back, but with Probert concept they are imbedded into the main hull.
So What I have done is mix the two. With the ones on the side I have them sticking out but I have streamlined the design so it follows better and not as chunky. With the rear ones I have them imbedded into the main hull and gave them a little lip so it stick out just a little but not noticeable.

The panels on the main part of the shuttle are a separate object and I am 50/50 on liking them, but they do bring it inline with the studio model. I have also left the window length the same as Probert concept as I think it looks better than the studio model.
As I made the impluse engine hatch thingy a door, that will be reworked back to being the impluse engines. As I have now corrected the front to incorporate Probert concept design for the main door.

I have included the second hatch on top of the shuttle as they are both on Probert concept and studio model and was seen open in Season 1 Skin of Evil Episode. Though I don't think Probert originally envisioned that as a Escape hatch.

I still need to add the RCS and details the bottom, as there is no clear view of it I might just do my own thing.
I have also added some temporary materials to get a feeling of where that will go.

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Very nice work, Dean!

As you can guess, being back at work. I have been busy busy busy. Which has meant that I have not done modelling in nearly three months. But this week I am came down with a cold and thought crap I got the beer bug. Luckily it not that but with my asthma, it has kicked my arse. Which means I can't go into the office for the time being. So with a bit of free time, I have sat down and done a little work on this girl.

Impulse Engines have been added and I have done a little work on it belly. A section we really have not seen on screen, so I have done my own thing. It still needs a lot of work. I have also added the RCS thrusters. On the model and the concept drawing it does not have any in the front so I have added some there. I like the ones on the back but the front ones as that is not really working for me. Not sure what I should do as there is not a lot of space to work with.

I have also started to work on some decals. I am going with the concept drawing on their placement.

Here is where she at, at the moment. I will adding more details and decals soon.

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I have to say that it is BEAUTIFUL work!  Nicely done!

Thanks Eric.

Quote from: Freak on Oct 16, 2020, 09:59 amThanks Eric.

My pleasure!  You've done good work.

have to like em when they are curvy in the rear

Quote from: Prime_8 on Oct 19, 2020, 07:58 pmhave to like em when they are curvy in the rear

Just FYI, that made me laugh!

Quote from: Prime_8 on Oct 19, 2020, 07:58 pmhave to like em when they are curvy in the rear

In the words of Sir Mixalot. "I like big butts and I can not lie.."

Okay guys, time for your option.
As I stated in my last up date, I was putting the decals partly in line with the concept art.
However, I have run into an issue. The first picture is the placement for the NCC that is on the concept.
The Second is placed in a slightly different location.

With the concept version. part of the reg is on a panel and the other part is on the main hull giving it this funky look when looked at this angle and from a similar angle when looking form the rear. when looking at it side on it is fine.

The second option placement is fully on the panel so no matter witch angle you look at it does not look cut up.

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So which version should I go with?

Well, the lower one looks spectacular!

Thanks Eric, yeah that's the one I am thinking of going with.

Quote from: Freak on Oct 24, 2020, 01:00 pmThanks Eric, yeah that's the one I am thinking of going with.

Excellent choice!  Keep going!

I have decided to go with option 2.

I have gone back and fixed the issues I was having with the front RCS. I made the nozzles shorter and I think they look much better for it. I have also modelled some details to the bottom of the shuttle, which is something we have never really seen clearly on screen and Andrew Probert concept drawing don't have a bottom angle. So I did my own thing and borrowed a few greebles off my Runabout and placed them here.

I have also add some decals going mostly with concept drawing. All in all I happy with the way this turned out even if it was a pain in the start.

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(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/201027-type-7-shuttle-03.png?w=1024)
(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/201027-type-7-shuttle-06.png?w=1024)
(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/201027-type-7-shuttle-05.png?w=1024)

Next is to knock out some pictures with this girl, and then move on to doing the Oberth Class.

That is absolutely beautiful work, Dean!

Thanks Eric.

slick

BTW , I still fully stand behind my previous comment, whenever possible :P

Thanks.

and I stand by my reply to you. ;)

Well I have been saying that I need to build this for a while and now I have finally started. I have blocked out all the main parts, and started working on the saucer. This has been rebuilt about 4 times due to stupid mistake and issues with what size the ship is meant to be.

So the hangers/ cargobays are larger than a deck height but that is to be expected due to the size of a shuttle. I have taken my Type 6 shuttle to make sure it will fit thought the hanger door and it does. The Type 6 shuttle from TNG is the same height as the one seen in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. It's just a little shorter.

The Oberth saucer is meant to have 3 decks in the saucer. Due to the scale and shape. I have been able to put three decks in but only just. If you look at the second picture you can see where the decks are meant to be. The decks are 2.2 meters in height and the gap in-between is .5 meters. Which gives you room for the tech in-between decks and Jeffries Tubes, etc. I could play around with the deck size but not much as I would have to remodel the windows and they where a bitch to put in the first time round. Also the Bridge dome is not high enough to be a deck on it own.

Not sure if I should some details to that bridge dome, as it look a little plain. (The original model was also plain there.)

I am next going to work the secondary primary hull. No data on how many decks are meant to be in here, but from what I can see there only enough room for 1 deck plus plenty of room internal workings. So I will leave it at that.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201206-oberth-00-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201206-oberth-01-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201206-oberth-02-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201206-oberth-03-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201206-oberth-04.png?w=1024)

looks really cool .

like single-serving pizza or Trek

Thanks.

LOL I have seen and the original Enterprise as a Pizza cutter. Almost bought it as well.

Very nice work!

Thanks Eric.

With it being that time of year, progress on this is a little slower than I would like. But hay-ho family commitments have to come first.

Anyway, have finished modelling everything on the second part of the Primary hull. It is only one deck in height, but it got plenty of space above and below the main decks and all that hardware you never see on screen like the grav-plating. I also see this area of the ship holding a lot of the science labs sensor etc.

On the modelling side, working on the main meshes went quite quick. What was the time consuming part was modelling all the Greebles. I don't have a stock file were I can just pull them over and just place them. So they are all modelled from scratch. (Maybe I should great a file for this sort of this as I working on these projects.)

As I only have a basic lighting set up on this model (just a simple sun.), after the first picture I turned on the ambient lighting so you can see all the details.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-00.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-01-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-02-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-03-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-04-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-05-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/201212-oberth-06-1.png?w=1024)

Now onto the Pylon's, followed by the Nacelles.

Lovely work, Dean!

Thanks Eric.

deep details man.

Thanks Scott.

Nothing new to show as I did not work on this over the holidays. Just to busy even with Lockdown.
Planning to get back to it this weekend.

Well it been nearly two months since I posted an update on this project. As mentioned in a pervious post I have been busy. But I am now back.

I have mainly been working on the pylons that connect the primary hull to the secondary hull. I also added a Transporter emitter onto top of the primary hull. Yes I know it's not on the original model. But I thought I would add it here. I can always remove it.

I will next be working on the nacelles before moving onto the secondary hull.

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/210213-oberth-00-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/210213-oberth-01-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/210213-oberth-02-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/210213-oberth-03-1.png?w=1024)

(https://freakart89.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/210213-oberth-04-1.png?w=1024)

Very, VERY nice work, Dean!

Thanks Eric.

very cool man