Star Trek News and Rumour's

[Freak]

Yeah they did sell I think 99% of it, but I understood the kept a few items.
You can blame Les Moonves for that shit show, but then you can also blame him for the crap that going on now.

Anyway here another look at the uniform from upper chest up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doAQYNlUrI0&t=180s

I have to say I am not impressed, this uniform just look cheap.

[scifidude79]

Les Moonves isn't totally to blame. It was Sumner Redstone who split the companies in the first place. The problem is, he left Star Trek in Moonves's hands.

[Freak]

I bet if he still got his mind, he kicking his own arse.
Sure both Companies did well for a few years when they split. However since 2010 Paramount has gone down the toilet and CBS has followed. Of course there is no way of knowing if the split never happened that Paramount would be doing well with it film and TV arm still together, but atleast Star Trek would be in once peace, Enterprise would not have been cancelled and it unlikely Kurtzman would be in charge now.
Sumner Redstone only did the split so he could sell more shares on the stock market.

[Freak]

So a Teaser for Picard Dropped Yesterday. CBS has it region locked to North America, but thankful youtube come to the aid of those living outside the North America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzQS4JaTapk

This Teaser dose nothing for me. The shots look good, but it does not grab me, which is the freaking point of trailers.
Also if you remove the Voiceover and labels from the wine bottles, this could be any futuristic sci-fi film.
Talking about the voice over. It's looking the biggest rescue in the history of Alpha and Beta Quadrant is the destruction of Romulus.

Any hope I had for this show is dying out. If Picard does turn out to be good I will be pleasantly surprised, but give who running things that not likely.

[MadKoifish]

Only sf like thing seen I have issues with. . . crop dusters over wine grapes? lol. This isnt acres of corn, or wheat. Id expect something small or something not anyway related to a flying device.

Yeah the whole SUPERNOVA is a threat to the galaxy thing really puts me off. Such shit science that. Even if it was a gamma ray burster it likely would only threaten a single system maybe anything in the direction of but the chances of it would be low that it would hit anything in system.

More I think about this one the more I will likely pass on it. I do admit it is creating a lot of buzz as that is apparently important to kids these days. Hell some times I wonder how many of these sheep flock and make something popular or a success is just cause it creates buzz or hype even if it is a pile of shit, hell the fact it might be a train wreck would attract them as anyone under 30 seems to just LOVE to watch other FAIL and laugh at them.

Least they could have done is tease ships or something other than shit that hasn't changed in the last 300yrs. 500+ by tng. Also nitpick that woman's voice was horrible to hear without turning things up. over boosted and the wrong timber for tv voiceover.

[scifidude79]

I watched the teaser earlier, it looks like a teaser. They usually don't do much for me.

[MadKoifish]

Heh, when I think about the narration on this it sounds more like a primer for the New Frontier series books. Swap Picard for Mac.

[Freak]

I read the first few books before I stopped reading Trek Novel.
They where good book, but then David is my favourite Trek Author. Q-squared is still one of my favourite Trek books.

[MadKoifish]

yeah they are OK, some of the books have some serious lack of knowledge of trek stuff science and well the stories themselves have contradictions or unresolved issues that never get approached later on. One I am reading now they keep mentioning lazors unbalanced "thrust" from nacelles so on. Reminds me at times of Chinese films in how much of things are WOT how continuity.

Mostly been reading a mess of them out of laziness of hunting new books to read.

However with all the meh it is one way to get old style trek, some is meh some is ok. I prefer the series where it is not a single author as a few I am not a fan of.

Calhoun has that whole lost faith in Starfleet etc that they seem to be dumping on Picard.

[scifidude79]

I got bored with New Frontier. The writing isn't bad but, like MKF said, there's a bit of a lack of knowledge. They're clearly Peter David books, with Star Trek dressing. But, that's typical of the novels. I do find it interesting how he put together a crew that includes a lot of TNG guest characters. It's like: what happened to them after the episode(s) they were in? But, I didn't feel the connection to those characters that I do with the main ones from the TV shows and movies.

Q-Squared, on the other hand, is really good. I have an old well worn paperback copy. It's really interesting, especially how he connects Trelane and Q, a connection that many fans have made anyway, and the interesting alternate realities that he created.

[MadKoifish]

yeah I have been avoiding much of the tv character driven stories except the fall series which in a way was a mash up of other series all mixed up leaving me a bit WOT at some characters. I think in new frontiers that was what had me reading were the bit characters being fleshed out. Some of which were only on once but referred to multiple times like Selar (think that is the right vulcan) Though there was one TOS one that lead into the series about that station with the SCE Daedalus assigned to it. That dealt with Kirk and co pretty well. Some others like one with janeway were clearly a one sided feminist opinion fest that put me off as it detracted heavily from the story. IE in VOY era Janeway would not be using her sex as an excuse or reason to push or sway choices or opinion. Just broke her for me.

I have to say the TNG and TOS SCE stories were my fave so far.

Oh there was that capt's table antho with picard, just was not written as picard to me. Least compared to other authors use of him.


I am horrible at remembering authors and things like that. Bands musicians names etc. lol Does not help some authors I read I like say older stuff vs newer stuff as they change for the better or worse.

I have been wanting to read some of the Q stories but the TNG TMP even DS9 and VOY stuff has all those tv to book stories mixed in with original stuff so I am wary of starting in on them. I need to find some non trek serials to read too but I have read much of the things I know about so far. Not a fan of fannish stories, stuff where the author mixes in ren-fair or filking crap into it. Was never into that stuff. Hell just a few years ago I would never have considered reading trek books. Remember picking up a wars one back in the late 80s early 90s and YEUGH it was bad, like some of those battle tech stuff with old anime or kids tv robots used in some future western scifi thing. (think it was a tabletop game originally) Worked at a book store back then and got loads of free send backs and damaged books to read.

Anyhow off topic rambling LOL finishing off a PIKE short story with space whales and stripe faced dickhole aliens.

[scifidude79]

Yeah, Dr. Selar was mentioned over the intercom in "Yesterday's Enterprise," but she was only seen in "The Schizoid Man." Robin Lefler was in two separate episodes of TNG, around the time Wesley was at the Academy. Elizabeth Shelby was in the two parter "The Best of Both Worlds," and Edward Jellico was on the two parter "Chain of command." I think those are all the New Frontier characters with TNG ties, though looking at it on Memory Beta, I see that he included a couple of the aliens from TAS.

I'd actually like to see more books that center around other ships and crews. Starfleet is big, and we've only touched on a few ships here and there. If I remember correctly, some of those "Lost Era" novels that took place throughout the 24th century were pretty cool. The Stargazer novels are interesting too. Though, after "The Valiant," some of the earlier ones are kind of rough until they find their footing.

And, while we're sharing, I'm presently reading DUNE.

[MadKoifish]

They have the Klingon ones too but it has been a while since I read those. Seems they did not sell well so only a few books in that. I think the lost era were some of the first ones I read. Ones with the ent-b.

I think new front had a few others bit security officers etc. The TNG era SCE I think did that too. Just hits at and not really there as a insert unless you look up the character. I am generally looking up arcane aliens as I cannot remember half a dozen at any one time and often they do refer to canon aliens. A lack of Alan Dean Foster level of descriptions leave me wondering whats being talked to talked about etc. I think in the Pip and Flinx books he would spend a page on a description at times >_>

ATM it looks like any books not centered on STD or JJ trek are at a complete hault. Left many series in limbo. I think the last classic trek book was some time in 2015 2016

[Freak]

ATM it looks like any books not centered on STD or JJ trek are at a complete hault. Left many series in limbo. I think the last classic trek book was some time in 2015 2016

The Problem with that is that they are not selling like the Classic Trek Book did.
So sooner or later you'll see an influx of them.

[scifidude79]

They must not be halted anymore, because new TOS and TNG books are due out this year. (one in three days) Someone probably realized those sell better, and books are much easier to get back started again than TV shows. Some authors were probably sitting on novels they wrote before that all was halted. Though, there's also a Disco novel due in a few months. Really, it's smart to keep writing books from all Trek series and eras, as peoples' tastes vary.