Star Trek News and Rumour's

[scifieric]

Chris and Eric. Have you had a chance to catch up with Picard?

I know some of you are not fan of the Nerdrotic Channel.
But he has posted a new video on the Lawsuit against CBS and Netflix.
It also shows Plagiarism or Homage with Star Trek Discovery and Picard. Of course this his option on that subject.
But you can decided weather it is Plagiarism or Homage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvE8aEb2OcY

Hello Dean,

Yeah, I'm up-to-date with Picard.  I haven't seen the Mandalorian though.  I'm a Star Trek fan first.  I'll catch up on Star Wars later.

[scifidude79]

Chris and Eric. Have you had a chance to catch up with Picard?

No, I haven't taken the time. With 3 episodes left to drop, I may just wait for the rest of the season and then binge them. One thing you have to admire about Netflix and Amazon is that they drop a whole season at once. They understand that we want to binge stuff we like.

I know some of you are not fan of the Nerdrotic Channel.
But he has posted a new video on the Lawsuit against CBS and Netflix.
It also shows Plagiarism or Homage with Star Trek Discovery and Picard. Of course this his option on that subject.
But you can decided weather it is Plagiarism or Homage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvE8aEb2OcY

I probably won't watch it, but is it still that Tardigrades game? Because, we all know there's a case there, but good luck proving it in court. Companies like CBS are used to stealing ideas and no doubt have a whole legal team ready for defense with confusing half truths and outright BS.

[Freak]

While I do enjoy a whole season being dropped in one go on Netflix and Amazon. I don't think it a good thing for a show.
Think about it. It get dropped on a Friday (Normally) and everyone watch's it over the weekend.
For the next week people talk about it and then it fades away.

Now two thing can happen. If the show some of the best TV going, then the hype will be there when the next season comes along a year later and most of the viewer will come back. Also taking the hype into consideration, those that did not see the first season will catch up and watch the second.

The other thing will happen if the show is moderate to okay, is that by the time the next season comes on people are no longer interested or forgotten about it and won't bother watching, as the show has not been on in a year. It also less likely new viewer will come in.


For a show to stay health, it need to follow the broadcast model.
One episode realised each week. This way, people are talking about it each week. Depending on how long a season is (10 to 23 episode), people will be talking about it for 2 1/2 months to five months.
Plus the wait time is not as long, so the pervious season is still fresh in people minds.

If you want to binge it in one go, you can always waiting until it has finished airing.

[scifieric]

I'm so old and busy that I really don't have time to waste on mediocre shows.  That's why I'm afraid with things like the JJ Abrams movies and the latest two shows (Discovery and Picard) that I may actually drop watching New Trek.  I just don't think they're very good.

Now, I do enjoy Altered Carbon on Netflix.  I think it's interesting.

[scifidude79]

Dropping a show one episode at a time is nothing more than an attempt to keep people subscribed because your streaming service has limited content. This is even true for Disney+, though less so than for CBS All Access. All Access is literally nothing more than current CBS shows, some past CBS shows and a handful of movies. It's not enough content to keep the service afloat, so they drip feed their exclusives. Though, it doesn't work. I personally subbed for a week free trial and binged Discovery season 2. I binged that and the Short Treks I hadn't seen over 2 days and CBS didn't get anything out of me except ad revenue.

People don't watch things at the same pace, so it's not like it just disappears after a season, or is quickly forgotten. I know people who binged The Boys after Amazon dropped it and they're still talking about how good it is and how they can't wait for season 2. So, if a show is good enough, dropping whole seasons at once shouldn't be a problem, people will want to come back. For me, watching single episodes of Picard is not that satisfying, when I finish one and immediately want to watch another but it's not up yet. That's why I'm letting some episodes build up. I did that with the final handful of episodes of The Mandalorian and I really enjoyed watching them back to back.

[Freak]

Like a said if it a good show (The Boys, Stanger Things etc) they can handle the year plus gap and the audience will come back. But then you have really good shows like The Expanse. That was originally aired on Syi-fi in the US and Netflix internally (I think Netflix has a deal with Syi-fi, as a lot of there show end up there.) For a sci-fi show it not overly expensive to make, and it got renewed after each season. However the cost of the show was too much for the viewer numbers syi-fi was getting and it was cancelled.
Luckily that show has a massive fan base that started to campaign for Netflix or Amazon to pick it up and save it.
Cas Anvar who plays Alex Kamal found out that Jeff Bezos (Owner and founder of Amazon.) was a huge fan. So Cas and the rest of the Cast found out that Jeff Bezos was the main speaker at a Science Dinner. Cas contacted organizer and had it arranged they would also do a talk about the show. Jeff missed their talk, but he was sitting on the next table to them during the dinner. All the cast member that where present signed a Expanse Comic and slipped it to Jeff, who loved the gift. He then sat down with them and chatted a little. Later in the evening just before Jeff was to go on stage and make his speech he made a phone call, when he took to the stage he announced that The Expanse had been saved by Amazon Prime.

In November Amazon who now have the rights to all of The Expanse dropped season 4. It understood the show is one of the most popular, however a week after it dropped all talk about the show dried up. Now if this had been realised weekly it would have been talked about for ten weeks.
Now I got to November for season 5. The wait is killing me.

@Eric, Love Altered Carbon just finished season 2 last night. I hope it get renewed for season 3.
While I liked Anthony Mackie as Takeshi Kovacs. I think Will Yun Lee  & Joel Kinnaman where better.

[scifidude79]

I don't think there's any right answer when it comes to interest in a show drying up on its off season. 10 weeks in the span of a 52 week year still isn't a lot of time. That's 42 weeks without the show being on. But, that's still less time than the single day drop, assuming fans binged it right away. But, that even happens with broadcast shows on TV channels. That's why they start mercilessly running commercials for shows about a month before they start. (or maybe sooner)

But, I get what you're saying for sure. The weekly thing could be better, but I just don't like waiting for new episodes. I think for next season I'll just wait until they're all up to watch them.

[Freak]

Not offical news out of ViamcomCBS or Secret hideout.
But I thought I would post it here instead of giving it own thread.

A Star Trek Fan in the UK has recreated the Bridge of the Enterprise-D in full loving detail.
This is not CGI, watch the video for the twist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBvF_9qCnJ8

[Freak]

Star Trek: Lower Decks final get an air date.
The show has been set to premiers on CBSAA on Thursday, August 6.
The show will be shown weekly on every Thursday and it is comprised of 10 episodes that are 30mins in length.


The Show will be shown in Canada on the same places that show Star Trek Picard and Discovery.

As for those of living out side of North America, there as been no news on who will be showing it. Though rumour has it both Netflix and Amazon Prime has turned it down. (I don't know what that means for Strange New World if it get made?)
It could be some time until it is seen in the Rest of the world.


As for Discovery Season 3, Still no news on when that will be Realised on CBSAA or Netflix. However I heard that Post Production is now completed and it is ready for broadcast.

[Freak]

Anyone a fan of the ship in the Poster?
It looks like it has the same issues that the Oberth Class has with getting into the secondary hull.
While the pylons do look thick enough for a turbolift to go down, they go straight into nacelles. Which is a big No No while they are in operation, given Trek Canon.

[scifidude79]

I like the design of the ship. It's not necessarily a secondary hull, it could just be an unmanned pod section. It looks like these crew members are going to be stationed in the lower part of the saucer, which they're referring to as the lower decks. Hardly the lower decks of the ship if that section is manned.

[scifieric]

Not offical news out of ViamcomCBS or Secret hideout.
But I thought I would post it here instead of giving it own thread.

A Star Trek Fan in the UK has recreated the Bridge of the Enterprise-D in full loving detail.
This is not CGI, watch the video for the twist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBvF_9qCnJ8

A few seconds into the video I called the "surprise" ... although it was obviously LOVINGLY created.  Very well done.

The ship for Lower Decks?  No, not a fan.  I'll wait to see if they deliver Star Trek-quality before I make any real judgements.