I'm now getting SOME free time. I'm still pretty tired, but I've started yet another insane project. The USS Enterprise from Where No Man Has Gone Before, the second Star Trek pilot ship.
It's just a start.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-005B-2.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-006-1.png)
That looks great so far, Eric. I've always been a fan of this version of the ship. I especially like the nacelle end caps and the spikes on the bussards.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 24, 2020, 01:20 amThat looks great so far, Eric. I've always been a fan of this version of the ship. I especially like the nacelle end caps and the spikes on the bussards.
Thank you, my friend!
Me too. I'm already itching to do the cutouts at the back end of the warp engines. I've re-spun the lower saucer and I've got to re-cut the windows. I'll be adding "rooms" to this. But don't get too excited. Like my prior projects, the goal is to look like the 11 foot model. :D
Very Nice Eric.
Getting there ... slowly. Fairly happy so far. The good Mr. Gary Kerr helped me by answering a few of my questions and provided some information in addition. I want my model to reflect the original as it was at the time, not necessarily as to what remained visible after all the photo-chemical processing.
It's been a while since I've been this excited to be working on a model!
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-011C.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-011D.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-011E.png)
It's looking outstanding, Eric. Your relentless pursuit of that perfect model as it was in the 1960s is always commendable. I don't have that kind of patience. ;)
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 27, 2020, 07:07 amIt's looking outstanding, Eric. Your relentless pursuit of that perfect model as it was in the 1960s is always commendable. I don't have that kind of patience. ;)
And yet you accomplish things that I don't. Thank you, Chris. I really appreciate your kind words. I suppose we each have our own unique goals. I wish to have a passable version of each of the 11 foot (and 3 foot) versions of the model as used in the series. Maybe one day ...
"Passable"? Any of the models I have seen far exceeds "Passable"!!
Quote from: Tralfaz on Jun 27, 2020, 02:59 pm"Passable"? Any of the models I have seen far exceeds "Passable"!!
Oh man, that made me laugh! Thank you my friend. I'm glad to see you around!
Testing placement of the rectangular lights on the upper saucer hull.
I think this is your best model yet!
Quote from: Freak on Jun 28, 2020, 06:01 amI think this is your best model yet!
Wow! Thank you, Dean! That's very kind of you!
I absolutely HAD to do the back end of the Warp Engines. I've been wanting to do that for YEARS! I hope I did it justice.
Now, on to the rest. (Maybe I'll do the Impulse Engines next ...)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-013A.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-012L.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-012M.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-012N.png)
Now with Impulse Engines!
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-013C.png)
The end caps and impulse engines look great.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 28, 2020, 09:38 pmThe end caps and impulse engines look great.
Thank you, Chris! I really appreciate that.
I know I'm jumping the gun, but I started work on the neck lights.
I really wanted to see what a couple of renders from similar camera angles found in Where No Man Has Gone Before.
Fantastic Eric, really need a like button. ;)
Quote from: Freak on Jun 29, 2020, 05:08 amreally need a like button. ;)
I think, from now on, when I like a post, I'm just going to post this image:
(https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/scotty-booze.jpg)
Quote from: Freak on Jun 29, 2020, 05:08 amFantastic Eric, really need a like button. ;)
Aw! Thank you, Dean!
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jun 29, 2020, 12:34 pmI think, from now on, when I like a post, I'm just going to post this image:
Well, that is a great image! LOL! "Put him RIGHT under the table!"
Slight, but definite progress. I hope to cut saucer windows tomorrow. These are (of course) just tools positioned to be the Booleans for the windows.
Looking Good!
Thank you, Gentlemen. You are very kind.
This is beyond beautiful!
If I might make a small suggestion... see if you can borrow Tallguy's energy barrier. That is the one I've used with my models.
Quote from: Shaw on Jul 05, 2020, 03:52 pmThis is beyond beautiful!
If I might make a small suggestion... see if you can borrow Tallguy's energy barrier. That is the one I've used with my models.
Good suggestion. I'm fairly certain that Bill would share. He's a very good guy, just like you!
And thank you for the VERY kind words! Your encouragement means a lot to me!
Some windows and lights. I will probably be making some changes. I have to research brightness and color for the lights.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016G.png)
Now working on the engineering hull.
All done in Blender 3D, of course.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016N.png)
The different Filmic render settings drive me nuts. That you can take the same model and the same lighting and turn out completely different-looking images amazes me. I also am flabbergasted that there is no allowance for Filmic Color Management in the new version of Blender. Nutty.
All done in Blender 3D, of course. The last image shows how that side shot was set up.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016O.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016Q.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016P.png)
It's looking great, Eric.
Quote from: scifieric on Jul 05, 2020, 10:04 pmAll done in Blender 3D, of course
What? You mean you didn't switch back to Truespace just for shiggles? :P
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 05, 2020, 11:59 pmIt's looking great, Eric.
What? You mean you didn't switch back to Truespace just for shiggles? :P
LOL! Yeah, sorry about that. And nice contraction there! I tend to put that in my posts on other sites, sorry. I'm turning into a piece of furniture ... specifically a Lazy Boy. ;D
I was just joking, bro. More often than not I see the question raised over at Scifi Meshes, so you're just heading off that question. Also, I can't fault anyone for copying and pasting, I do it too.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 06, 2020, 12:28 amI was just joking, bro. More often than not I see the question raised over at Scifi Meshes, so you're just heading off that question. Also, I can't fault anyone for copying and pasting, I do it too.
Thanks. And I figured you were joking! Never a problem, my friend.
Stunning Eric.
Bill's barrier would look great with this ship.
Quote from: Freak on Jul 06, 2020, 10:13 amStunning Eric.
Bill's barrier would look great with this ship.
Thank you, Dean!
I think someone else made the barrier image that went with Bill's ship. Man, those renders of his looked like pristine frames cut from the original series.
Quote from: scifieric on Jul 06, 2020, 12:40 amAnd I figured you were joking! Never a problem, my friend.
I figured you would, since I used the tongue out smiley and all. ;)
There are times where I think about giving Blender another go and taking a crack at your Enterprise tutorial. But then I think about the time it takes to learn new software and how I can actually go into Lightwave and model (and texture) something. Plus, Blender's recent revamp and UI change hasn't warmed me up to the software any, though I could just use an older version. But, the work done by you and Dean and some of the other talented people here and at SFM is definitely an inspiration and a testament to how good Blender is. So, I can certainly see why you put on there "made in Blender," it not only keeps that question from popping up, but also lets people know the great stuff you can make in that software.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 06, 2020, 10:03 pmI figured you would, since I used the tongue out smiley and all. ;)
There are times where I think about giving Blender another go and taking a crack at your Enterprise tutorial. But then I think about the time it takes to learn new software and how I can actually go into Lightwave and model (and texture) something. Plus, Blender's recent revamp and UI change hasn't warmed me up to the software any, though I could just use an older version. But, the work done by you and Dean and some of the other talented people here and at SFM is definitely an inspiration and a testament to how good Blender is. So, I can certainly see why you put on there "made in Blender," it not only keeps that question from popping up, but also lets people know the great stuff you can make in that software.
Believe it or not, there is another consideration. I know it is obvious to you and me and probably everyone else here, but I kept getting requests for quotes on how much it would take to make another ship model ... but they meant physical. They didn't realize that it was a 3D object.
Weird, I know. But it's been happening with greater frequency!
See, I keep telling you your stuff looks real.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 07, 2020, 12:02 amSee, I keep telling you your stuff looks real.
You are the greatest!
I know it's not done yet, but I really wanted to have some fun.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Title-01.png)
Looks awesome, bro. Also, I saw where someone on SFM asked if it was a render.
Just missing the film grain and it would look like a screenshot!
Very Nice.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 07, 2020, 11:16 amLooks awesome, bro. Also, I saw where someone on SFM asked if it was a render.
Ha! I haven't seen that yet. I'll go there next. And thank you for the very kind compliment, my friend.
Quote from: Freak on Jul 07, 2020, 12:34 pmJust missing the film grain and it would look like a screenshot!
Very Nice.
Thank you, Dean. Actually, I have some fake film grain on there. I think it comes across fairly subtle on a render this size. I'll probably do the "real" film grain with Blender when I'm done with the model.
I would like to have done something more substantial today, but I have a BLISTERING headache.
I found something I have to correct. At the rear of the Engineering Hull during the first pilot, there are two rectangular windows with a round port BEHIND them, towards the shuttle bay. By the second pilot, that round port was in FRONT of the two rectangular windows.
I still have to work on the triangles under the saucer. After researching a bit, it doesn't seem like the "bumpers" were there yet. I guess that was just a Production detail.
I still need to add the lettering on the grey squares under the saucer section.
I think I will make the warp domes a little more deep red.
Of course, this is still very much a work-in-progress. Once I finish on cleaning up some of the details (like that round port aft Engineering) then I'll start on the textures. But that's going to have to wait until my head feels better.
Thank you for looking in.
All done in Blender 3D.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016Z.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-017A.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-017C.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-017D.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-017E.png)
And I always did like that shot of the Enterprise coming over Delta Vega at the end of Where No Man Has Gone Before. This is a little closer and lighter, of course.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-016TY.png)
Nice
Thank you, Dean.
One frame from one element of a test animation with my 2nd Pilot USS Enterprise. I'm moderately happy with how it is turning out. I may have to come up with a new method. I have a couple of ideas in mind.
Looking forward to seeing the animation.
Quote from: Freak on Jul 09, 2020, 04:11 pmLooking forward to seeing the animation.
Thank you, Dean!
I need more trial and error on this in Blender. The "film grain" didn't turn out how I wanted. I may have to go back to using Photoshop for this.
I corrected the rear lights on the Engineering hull. I've got both sides of the ship lit. These are all for fun.
I still have to work on the "triangles" on the underside of the saucer. Then I'll work on the textures.
Next week may be a little rough. There may be no more updates until the week after.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001E.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001G.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001H.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001I.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001J.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001K.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001L.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001L2.pn)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-Orbit001M.png)
Great stuff, Eric.
Very nice Eric.
Ran an animation overnight. This is just one frame.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGBOpen01Credits.png)
My angle for the Enterprise is off, but I don't think it's too bad. At least, I hope not. Thanks for looking in!
I don't know what shot it is, but it looks good to me.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 16, 2020, 11:59 amI don't know what shot it is, but it looks good to me.
Thank you, my friend! The opening shot for the episode. At least, for the broadcast version.
I've been thinking of reworking the opening shots for the ORIGINAL version!
Quote from: scifieric on Jul 16, 2020, 02:30 pmThank you, my friend! The opening shot for the episode. At least, for the broadcast version.
Ah yes, the very beginning. I probably could have guessed that, but I was really tired this morning.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 16, 2020, 10:01 pmAh yes, the very beginning. I probably could have guessed that, but I was really tired this morning.
I'll bet! I hope you got some rest.
Quote from: scifieric on Jul 16, 2020, 10:11 pmI'll bet! I hope you got some rest.
Yeah, some. Thanks. We've got inventory coming up next week, so I put in some extra hours earlier this week and I'm still tired from that. I'll catch up on some rest this weekend. I just have to work tonight then I have two nights off. Aside from getting some sleep, I've really got the itch to do some CGI this weekend, especially since I've been too tired to do any of that stuff since Sunday.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 16, 2020, 10:23 pmYeah, some. Thanks. We've got inventory coming up next week, so I put in some extra hours earlier this week and I'm still tired from that. I'll catch up on some rest this weekend. I just have to work tonight then I have two nights off. Aside from getting some sleep, I've really got the itch to do some CGI this weekend, especially since I've been too tired to do any of that stuff since Sunday.
Good luck with both! I hope you get some rest AND that you get to do something you enjoy.
Ugh. I have to start all over again with the lighting. This is just not coming out right.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/ShipAndTitleText02.png)
Even though it is still a great image, there is something that seems off that I can't put my finger on. Like the rim of the saucer looks too smooth and washed out. Also, the lettering in the title seems to have depth to it with the highlights on it coming from the upper left and shadows on the lower right.
Quote from: Tralfaz on Jul 19, 2020, 03:42 pmEven though it is still a great image, there is something that seems off that I can't put my finger on. Like the rim of the saucer looks too smooth and washed out. Also, the lettering in the title seems to have depth to it with the highlights on it coming from the upper left and shadows on the lower right.
You are correct on both counts. Oddly, no one ever seems to have noticed that the lettering from the original series was made a faux kind of 3D to help it stand out a little.
I've attached the original and you can see the edges on the top and left, and you can see shadows on the right and bottom of the letters.
I still have to make proper textures. but I do so love making images with these models. I know I need to wait, but still. LOL!
Well, now that you attached the original, I can definitely tell that the lighting is off. I never noticed the 3D thing with the text either.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 19, 2020, 09:31 pmWell, now that you attached the original, I can definitely tell that the lighting is off. I never noticed the 3D thing with the text either.
Yeah, I'm a lunatic for trying to notice the tiny details. I know I get some wrong, but I try!
Thanks for your help and encouragement!
Son of a gun. Never noticed the lettering when viewing the original series. Now that is attention to detail. It's those little things that help sell a scene.
Quote from: Tralfaz on Jul 20, 2020, 05:16 pmSon of a gun. Never noticed the lettering when viewing the original series. Now that is attention to detail. It's those little things that help sell a scene.
Thank you, my friend. Very kind of you to say!
I should have posted this earlier. I quite enjoy the image.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB3QuarterFront01.png)
Images like that make your model look like a physical model.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 20, 2020, 09:29 pmImages like that make your model look like a physical model.
Thank you, my very good friend! Thank you VERY much!
I was tired and listless today, but I still wanted to have some fun. So, here are some more of the new model from various angles, but with some chromic aberration and distortion, along with some simulated film grain and blur. Like I said, just for fun. All done in Blender 3D.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-020A.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-020B.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-020C.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-020D.png)
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Enterprise-020E.png)
Stunning as always Eric.
Had a little fun this morning. I don't think I got it quite right, and of course, the 2nd Pilot ship was never shot from this angle, but again, just for fun. All done in Blender 3D, of course. A little post work in Photoshop.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/WNMHGB-Stars-021D2C.png)
Looks great to me, bro.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 07, 2020, 01:47 pmLooks great to me, bro.
Thank you very much, my friend!
Working on this sequence for real. Trying to make it look as much like the original as I can.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/Opening0214.png)
If it doesn't, you have to be very close.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 09, 2020, 07:53 amIf it doesn't, you have to be very close.
Thank you! Thank you very much, Chris!
Close counts in only horse shoes and grenades. Well, now we can ad Eric's Enterprise!
Quote from: Tralfaz on Aug 10, 2020, 08:09 pmClose counts in only horse shoes and grenades. Well, now we can ad Eric's Enterprise!
That's hysterical! Thanks Tralfaz!
I've gone back and reimaged my sequence. I wanted the lights in the ship's windows to show a little better.
I've always wanted to make this sequence and do it with some justice to the original. In other words, I hope I'm close.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/LtoR04wText.mkv0142.png)
When I splice it into the correct spot and render it all out as a movie in the original episode, it gets all jittery. I need to fix that. Once I've got that fixed, I'll show the short movie.
Thanks for looking in!
The windows definitely look better. That's weird about it getting jittery. Is it a framerate issue?
Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 16, 2020, 09:20 pmThe windows definitely look better. That's weird about it getting jittery. Is it a framerate issue?
It might be, but I tried to match the original 29.9 fps. I've got to look at the HD frame rate. Perhaps they dropped it.
This is still jittery, but it is my attempt at animating the effects for the title sequence for Where No Man Has Gone Before. At least you can get the idea.
DUDE!! That looks phenomenal! If you hadn't said anything, I would have sworn that I was watching the actual show.
Quote from: Tralfaz on Aug 21, 2020, 04:18 pmDUDE!! That looks phenomenal! If you hadn't said anything, I would have sworn that I was watching the actual show.
That is an amazing compliment, my friend! Thank you, very much!
I've discovered another couple of slight differences. I think that either my selected camera is wrong, or I've chosen the wrong lens settings. Plus, the blinking lights on the underside of my saucer are slightly too large.
I've started comparing my renders to images of the original model as it was filmed in front of a blue screen. So, maybe I can tweak my model and my renderings a little closer to the original.
This first image is from The Roddenberry Vault.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/vlcsnap-2020-07-18-09h53m46s632.png)
This is from an episode.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/vlcsnap-2011-07-04-21h42m52s46.png)
My render.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/wherenoman/ship.png0138.png)
All done in Blender 3D.
I don't really seem much of a difference between the photos and your render.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 24, 2020, 01:01 amI don't really seem much of a difference between the photos and your render.
Thank you, Chris! I really appreciate your encouragement!
I only told you the truth. ;)
You the man!
Here is a test for what I'm trying now.
It looks a bit blurry to me. But then, that may be your intent as you're trying to capture that 60s look.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 27, 2020, 10:50 pmIt looks a bit blurry to me. But then, that may be your intent as you're trying to capture that 60s look.
That is exactly correct! That's what I'm tryi8ng to do.
I am trying make the Blu-ray level of resolution play smoothly. So, I"m trying to render it all out at full 2 Mega Pixel resolution, then cut the size or the ratio down to 4:3.
I would love to have my footage look like the original ... only without some of the mistakes. No stars traveling through the ship mattes. Stars moving a little better. In any case, the goal is a personal one and will probably never get where I want it to be. But that hardly matters. If I can get it to look fairly good, then I'll be happy.
Awe, c'mon, the stars visible through the ship were the best. ;D
Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 28, 2020, 02:48 amAwe, c'mon, the stars visible through the ship were the best. ;D
LOL!
Stunning work as always Eric.
Quote from: Freak on Sep 03, 2020, 06:47 amStunning work as always Eric.
Thank you, Dean!
one of these days I fully expect to watch one of you clips and it will pull back out past the screen of 60's era floor sitting furniture TV dolly & panning to a livingroom of that ere like you might see on popular mechanics. LOL
Quote from: Prime_8 on Oct 19, 2020, 08:06 pmone of these days I fully expect to watch one of you clips and it will pull back out past the screen of 60's era floor sitting furniture TV dolly & panning to a livingroom of that ere like you might see on popular mechanics. LOL
Oh, now that would be INTERESTING!
I had a little fun the other day.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/enterprise/01NewEnterprise2020B.png)
Looking Sharp Eric.
Quote from: Freak on Oct 26, 2020, 10:34 amLooking Sharp Eric.
Thank you, Dean! I really appreciate your encouragement!
That looks really amazing!
Quote from: Tralfaz on Oct 27, 2020, 05:23 pmThat looks really amazing!
Tralfaz, my friend, thank you very much!
thats stunning bro.
it has a mid-freez-video feel
Quote from: Prime_8 on Oct 31, 2020, 06:47 pmthats stunning bro.
it has a mid-freez-video feel
My friend, you are a GREAT guy! Thank you!
I wanted to give a try to another image. My memory has been affected by COVID-19, so I wasn't sure I could do what I used to do, but this isn't too bad. I should have added some motion to it.
(https://3dscifi.com/ericimages/2019enterprise/starship-2020-007b.png)
it looks fine to me man.
I hope them effect wears off soon man.
Quote from: Prime_8 on Nov 23, 2020, 01:44 amit looks fine to me man.
I hope them effect wears off soon man.
Thank you, my friend. I really hope so too!
Looks really great Eric.
Sorry to hear you got Covid, I hope you are recovering well.
Quote from: Freak on Nov 24, 2020, 10:03 amLooks really great Eric.
Sorry to hear you got Covid, I hope you are recovering well.
Thank you, Dean! Yeah, I recovered from the COVID-19 in March (I think). The after effects (so called "brain fog") took a while to reach a maximum, then BAM! I lost a lot of memories. Luckily, I still remember this place!
man, I hope they come back.
The upside I can see is, if you forgot any films, it's a great excuse to watch em all again.
Take care man.
Quote from: Prime_8 on Nov 25, 2020, 01:37 amman, I hope they come back.
The upside I can see is, if you forgot any films, it's a great excuse to watch em all again.
Take care man.
LOL! I hadn't thought of the advantages! Now, if only I could remember what I've forgotten!
that is the paradox effect.
Both my grandparents on my mom's side suffered from dementia in their old age. that scares me because well it's very likely I will too as it was maternal side.
my hope is that I never notice it.
I hope some things remind and Sparc the memories back. but hey may its an excuse to go on a old movie bender
Quote from: Prime_8 on Nov 26, 2020, 09:26 pmI hope some things remind and Sparc the memories back. but hey may its an excuse to go on a old movie bender
Now THERE'S an idea!