So, it's that time again, time to play around with the TOS Enterprise design. But, rather than just model the ship, (I have one of those) I'm doing a redesign. I've done this sort of thing before, but it's been years and I don't have those models anymore. Initially, this was going to be a ship in the Kelvin timeline, but as I was working on it, it became more my style than anything else. But, there are some Kelvin inspired bits, such as the saucer section. And, there will be more familiar bits that pop in as I go, since I'm drawing inspiration from a number of sources.
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Anyway, everything is pretty preliminary so far, and is subject to change. The main bulk of the saucer, secondary hull and nacelles probably won't get redone. And, I've done the warp pylons twice and am pretty happy with them, so they're not likely to change. Everything else may get redone, though.
Very interesting so far! I can't wait to see what you do with this!
Thanks Eric.
Just a quick update before I go to work. I've redone the whole bridge area. I wasn't happy with the look I had previously, so I redid the bridge to one inspired by the Phase II model that was being built 42 years ago. I also redid the B deck structure beneath and added a swoopy spoony thing (technical term) that goes back to the impulse area.
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Nice work!
Very Nice Chris.
I look forwards to seeing what other changes you make.
Thanks guys.
Nothing too major here. I redid the neck and started on the impulse engine. That pretty much does it for main structures, it's on to details next. I'll probably start with the shield grid and windows, to get that stuff out of the way.
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Very pretty!
Thanks Eric.
Looking good Chris
Thanks Dean.
Another quick update. I started on the shield grid lines. As always, these aren't difficult to do, just long and tedious.
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I also changed the vent style on my impulse engines, I like this much better. It's based on the Phase II ship's impulse engines. And, I added some vents to the top of the saucer, to the port and starboard of the impulse reactors. I figure those would be good should it be necessary to purge the deuterium tanks. Of course, if that happened, the ship would be stuck with only warp drive and thrusters, but one would assume it would be an emergency measure and not something you'd do under normal circumstances, much like a warp core ejection.
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Very nice, I do like the vents on top of the saucer
That's beautiful work, Chris! Excellent.
Thanks guys.
deut-poop vents look cool .
you would never know when purging some might be handy especially if it could be ignited post-dump .
excite it enough and it can make 3H, Tritium and have a nasty nuclear fire behind you. It's like NoS for nukes.
... or a pretty light show.
(Tritium is safe* and when mixed with or in a phosphor coated container make great glowing key chains that will glow for decades without harm . there i some deuterium and tritium in you rite now . LOL . if you had enough to fill a florescent tube , it would glow softly for ages)
so yeah could be a cool thing to do, possibly even tactical especially if you could scoop up more hydrogen and convert it up to deut'
Thanks Scott.
Obviously, that's not the intended use of such a system. The intent is, if your fusion reactors are about to go critical, you'd dump the fuel. Also, one would assume if you separated the saucer section and it was going to crash on a planet, you'd want to dump any volatile fuels to lessen the chance of an explosion. Funny how that never comes up in Star Trek, either in Generations or Beyond.
But, you can of course use such a system in a way that it's not intended to be used. We've seen at least a few examples of that in canon Star Trek. For one, released and ignited the Galileo's fuel to send up a flare in The Galileo Seven. They ejected and blew up the warp core of the Enterprise-E in Insurrection to stop the subspace tear. Then, in the first JJ Abrams Star Trek film, they also ejected and blew up the Enterprise's warp core to escape the black hole in the film's climax. And, there were a few other times they vented and ignited fuel. So, yeah, it's entirely possible.
I've decided to do this model differently than I do a lot of my models. Usually, I do all of the grid lines first and then windows, because those are both tedious. However, I decided this time to just complete an area and then move on. So, I'm doing the saucer top first. I started with some RCS thrusters, phasers and access panels. I also added the upper registry and a couple other things. I'm trying to keep the details balanced between stuff I like from different sources, including the original Enterprise, the TMP refit and the Kelvin Timeline ships. I also plan to do some stuff that will (hopefully) be unique to me.
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For the phasers, I decided to make them turrets, rather than just nubs with holes in them. I think this looks more realistic and less refined than the later era phasers. I could have cut the access panels into the hull, but there would have been little benefit as you won't be able to tell in most renders. And, of course, the text won't be visible most of the time either. **shrugs**
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For the RCS thrusters, I went with a vent look.
Chris, that looks FANTASTIC! I am loving this version!
Thanks Eric.
This is sort of a mini update. I got some feedback on the text over at Scifi-Meshes, so I tried out a suggestion and put the NCC-1701 text on the lower part of the saucer:
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I wasn't fond of how that looked, so I took that suggestion and some of the others and blended them together to make some changes and come up with something I like better:
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Firstly, all of the text is smaller. The NCC-1701 text is slightly smaller, the USS Enterprise text is significantly smaller. I also changed the font from Airborne II to Airborne Pilot, because I wanted to. 😉 I moved the text closer to the edge of the ridge and moved my phasers from 33.3 degrees to 45 degrees, then re-spaced the text to easily fit between the phasers. I also moved the Enterprise text towards the edge and put it inside the arc of the NCC-1701 text. The other change I made had nothing to do with the text, but I moved the access panels more towards the center of the lower area of the saucer, because I like how that looks. It also helps make that area look less "empty."
This is all I plan to do for now, as I have a headache and just want to play a game or something until it goes away. I would be installing a new drive for storing games into my PC, but Amazon decided they didn't want to deliver it today. The whole reason I ordered the drive I did was because it was supposed to be delivered today, and I don't work Saturday nights. So, to not get it today as planned is irritating, to say the least.
Some more work done. I'm pretty close to being done with the top of the saucer section. I just have some details to add to the structure below the bridge, the bridge itself and the impulse/fusion reactor area.
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I'm testing out an idea for the upper sensor array. I like it, so I'll probably keep it.
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WOW! That looks awesome! Excellent work, Chris!
Thanks Eric. :)
Very cool, Chris.
Loving the phaser turrets, I went that way with the refit, instead of the nipples.
Like you I think it more realistic.
I am also loving the extra details on the panels.
Thanks Dean. :)
I finished up the details on the upper saucer. The only way any of this will change will be if I decide to do another detail pass later. But, that's not likely to happen, as Starfleet ships aren't known for having an excessive amount of exterior details. And, even though this is a reboot of sorts, there's no reason to stray too far from tradition on this. If I wanted to do something with gobs of detail, I'd do a ship from another race (like the Klingons) or just switch to another franchise or do something original.
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Very Nice Chris.
Thanks Dean.
You've changed the Impulse Engine vents, I see. Nice!
This has plenty detail enough to keep the eye entertained. Excellent work, Chris.
Thanks Eric. Yeah, I didn't like my original impulse vents.
wow man it looks purty'
After a short break, I'm back to work on this. The saucer edge was next, so I started by putting some cutouts for it to add details. The three circular ones on the front are going to be the auxiliary nav deflector and forward sensor array. The ones on the port and starboard sides are obviously going to be the docking ports. And, I added some horizontal lines similar to what they did on the TMP Enterprise because I've always liked that look, though I did less lines so that you can make out the individual lines better. And, I put in the saucer rim windows. I went with more windows than the TOS ship, again similar to the TMP ship. I'll be doing very few (if any) windows on the saucer underside because having a bunch of windows on that aggressive curve makes no sense. I may just take a cue from the Kelvin Timeline Enterprise and have no windows down there. Or I may do some indentations like they did on the Enteprise-D and other TNG era ships to put some windows down there.
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Chris, that looks spectacular so far! I'm curious to see what you do with her.
Thanks Eric.
Quote from: scifieric on Jul 19, 2020, 01:36 amI'm curious to see what you do with her.
Me too. Maybe I should have been working on it this past hour plus, rather than adding stuff to my Netflix playlist and writing a long winded reply over at SFM. ;)
Hey, it's all good! LOL!
I got the forward sensor/deflector greeblies done. I also added the docking port(s.) The ports are based on other ones from Star Trek. It's a pretty basic design, but there's no need to make it complex. It's (obviously) situated between decks, just like the one on the TMP Enterprise. The airlock would require extra equipment that would make it too large to sit on just one deck. The idea is also that the whole airlock assembly itself can extend outward if necessary to dock with other ships, stations, or whatever. I'm pretty sure that's the way the Voyager airlocks were too.
Anyway, the only thing left to detail on the saucer edge is the impulse engine.
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The impulse engines are done, so this will do it for saucer edge details. The saucer bottom is next.
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That looks stunning Chris.
This DOES look sensational! I see you went with impulse engines that are a little more representative of the new movies. Cool.
Thanks guys.
I'm going to work in a little while, so no work will be done on the ship today. However, I decided to render up some full ship shots with higher anti aliasing to take a look at how everything is looking so far. And, since I rendered them anyway, there's no reason not to share them.
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Rendering full ship shots gives me an idea of how things are shaping up, as well as giving me an idea of problems (if any) that exist with the mesh. So far, I'm not seeing any.
This is looks really great Chris. I love what you have done.
The only issue I have is the cut outs for the airlocks. I think they needs some sliding cover over them when not in use, so the cut outs don't break up the lines of the saucer so much.
Thanks Dean. I addressed the airkock thing over at SFM.
Oh man, this is pretty work! I look forward to whatever you do!
Thanks Eric.
After getting some advice on the docking port over at SFM, (thanks Dean) I modified the port. I changed the cutout for the port from a square to a circle. I also changed the door design to one based on the docking ports on the NX-01.
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Neat and clean!
Thanks Eric.
That looks much better Chris.
Thanks Dean.
This should just about do it for the saucer section.
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Nice! TMP thrusters and little doodads. Excellent work!
Thanks Eric. :)
Just a couple more quick things. I decided to put the photon torpedo launchers in the saucer, since that was where the torpedoes came from in TOS. I also did something else in that general area. It's not big, we'll see if people notice. ;)
Then I went and put grid lines and windows in the neck. I may add a couple other things to the neck, but probably not much more.
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Stunning work Chris. Really like the neck and the way the lines flow from the saucer to the secondary hull.
Well, I see the phaser turrets around the saucer and the photon torpedo launch tubes, I also noticed (in the prior post, I think) the lower planetary array sensor has a lot of little lights inside it. Also, a kind of TMP style array around the planetary sensor array (lower central light area on the bottom of the saucer) but without the additional lights at the ends.
It looks like you have maintenance bays on either side of the neck (or something to that effect). Am I missing anything? It's all very cool!
And I should have mentioned the SLIM triangles on the lower saucer. I didn't miss it, but I did forget to mention it. Sorry.
Thanks guys. :)
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 26, 2020, 01:31 pmI also did something else in that general area. It's not big, we'll see if people notice. ;)
Oh man, I've GOT to know!
She looking really great Chris.
Thanks Dean.
Quote from: scifieric on Jul 26, 2020, 11:31 pmQuote from: scifidude79 on Jul 26, 2020, 01:31 pmI also did something else in that general area. It's not big, we'll see if people notice. ;)
Oh man, I've GOT to know!
It's really not that significant. There are some gray rectangles on the planetary sensor that weren't there before.
Quote from: scifidude79 on Jul 28, 2020, 12:04 amIt's really not that significant. There are some gray rectangles on the planetary sensor that weren't there before.
Ah, I saw those, but my brain told me they were always there! They simply looked "right"!
Nice job!
It´s a looooong time since the last time i visited these forums. So long that my old user vanished. I´m glad I could register again with my old username :). Hey, the place has a beautifull new dress! Looks to much cool.
Back on topic, good work Chris!
Quote from: starship on Sep 02, 2020, 09:46 pmIt´s a looooong time since the last time i visited these forums. So long that my old user vanished. I´m glad I could register again with my old username :). Hey, the place has a beautifull new dress! Looks to much cool.
Back on topic, good work Chris!
Nice to see you, Starship! Yeah, I had to redo the whole thing when the previous site went down. I think it got hacked.
In any case, I'm glad to see you around. And yes, Chris does great work!
starship! Great to see you back around these parts. You probably had to create a new account because there was an unrecoverable forum crash a couple years back, leading Eric to have to reboot the whole thing.
Thanks for your kind works, but this project is officially dead. I haven't been in the mood to work on it in a while, and that's not about to change as I'm not likely to be using Lightwave anymore in the future. I may revisit (reboot) this project eventually, but as of now it's dead.