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Started by scifidude79, May 27, 2019, 12:21 am

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Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 21, 2019, 01:14 amNope, I have a Vimeo account.
Okay, so do I.  I'll upload the videos there this weekend.
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scifidude79

Blender's 2.5X+ interface really isn't really that bad. But then, Lightwave has a similarly tiered list of tools, but stuff like modeling tools are even more spread out. Compared to that, the way Blender 2.79 is organized might actually be more intuitive. At least I don't have to go to separate menu tiers for stuff like spin (lathe) and bevel (edge rounding) like I do in LW. (Though, I usually just used the keyboard shortcut for lathe, but that's not my point)

Prime_8


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yeah sorry, I did not mean on this project, when you start a new one, try new blender.

yeah. I find I have been using menus in the new blender because I was menu user in Max

Prime_8

he quickly covers the how to make it work back like 2.7

scifidude79

Gotcha.

And, with very few exceptions, I don't watch YouTurd videos. I want to know when that became the go-to for explaining everything. ::)

MadKoifish

Many people are lazy and want to be spoonfed and a video is easier to them. As reading is too hard or too much effort. Which to me is odd as I read 3 or 4 500page books a month.
 I find it annoying as I have to keep pausing replaying etc to get what I need. Also it is all this money for nothing attitude lately as you will find almost all of these videos are monetized. Patreon etc has not helped at all either. Loads of artists whom shared work freely now paywall everything.

scifidude79

I find manuals and print tutorials easier to go back and reference things than finding that exact spot I can't remember the time of.

I'm getting ready to buy and configure my first Raspberry Pi, and I'm eying the official manual to go with it.

MadKoifish

is it additional cost? >_<

Also thinking about it a video tut on somethings could be a good way to get the maker covering all bases. I have followed countless tuts where they leave out what they think everyone knows as a step and skip it. That or just leave a important step or way of doing something out. Just thought of some of those nerf mod tuts that have been showing up in my yt suggestions lately and though yeah maybe a video is better to do for taking something apart and showing alterations as it is on video vs writing it out and missing something. Shrug.

I do find them hugely annoying though for software or hdw. Mostly cause so many will blather for 3 min before getting to what I want. Though so many of these blog DIY things are just as fucking bad taking 5 paragraphs 3 spam adverts poop ups and overlays before getting to the instructions. I just wanted to know the reg string to hacking out rotate from the fing context menu on images! (old man brain here so shit is forgotten if older than 6mo)

scifidude79

Aug 22, 2019, 06:45 am #188 Last Edit: Aug 22, 2019, 06:49 am by scifidude79
Naw, I'll probably just use the Pi documentation on their website, which is free. There is also a print manual, but that costs money. The board itself comes with a quick setup guide.

Like you, I find that some people tend to babble more and include too much information, rather than getting straight to the point. If I want a quick answer, a 10+ minute video isn't going to get me there.

Really, it depends what you like. Some people like that video telling them what to do, others would just rather read it. I just think it's kind of sad that the videos seem to be replacing written tutorials. I like choices.

With Blender, I tend to find text explaining things to be lacking, but there are lots of videos out there. I may watch the video Scott posted, I may not. My issue comes more with where it's hosted than the fact that it's a video.

MadKoifish

I was thinking there would be a pdf version of the manual. When I used to be into use manuals it would have been a boon for digital searching etc. >_>

Yeah seen a few blender tuts where they say do this that this thing and that with no understanding the noob has not fucking clue where to even look for this that and the other thing. >_> Or they use a term for a gesture or something. Though I hear much of the gesture crap is being replaced or at least made doable without it. I also loath scripted only tools and hotkey only ones. Blender had quite a few of the latter last I looked. Max has too many tools or buttons that are not hotkeyed or keyable! heh in older 2010 I think you could not bridge edges or polies (though poly bridge is annoying as it always crosses) I found out some point prior to at least 2013 they had a edge bridge so I mapped it to a key and is so damn much faster than clicking bridge every time lol.

And yeah google, went the way I had guessed back in 2008 sad. I remember the OG droid and how cool it was only took what 3yrs for that to go to shit where everything even shit apps were pay for or spyware.

scifidude79

Yeah, I'm not typing this on my iPhone because I have a deep love for Apple. In fact, this is only my second ever Apple product and I paid too much for what it is, but it doesn't have Google on it.

The main problem with Blender tuts is age and that thing you mentioned where people act like you already know stuff. I was trying some tutorials back in the 2.49 days where the tutorials were written for 2.3x, and tools had moved and/or changed names. It's a real pain when you're trying to learn the software. Like I said, I'll hit 2.8 after I finish the ship.

There may be a .pdf version of that manual. If there is, that will be perfect. I like to transfer .pdf manuals to my Kindle Fire because they display like books.

Freak

Very nice work on the Phase II Enterprise Chris

Quote from: scifidude79 on Aug 22, 2019, 12:49 amGotcha.

And, with very few exceptions, I don't watch YouTurd videos. I want to know when that became the go-to for explaining everything. ::)

Quote from: MadKoifish on Aug 22, 2019, 03:33 amMany people are lazy and want to be spoonfed and a video is easier to them. As reading is too hard or too much effort. Which to me is odd as I read 3 or 4 500page books a month.
 I find it annoying as I have to keep pausing replaying etc to get what I need. Also it is all this money for nothing attitude lately as you will find almost all of these videos are monetized. Patreon etc has not helped at all either. Loads of artists whom shared work freely now paywall everything.

unfortunely I fall into the Camp that prefer Videos or Texts. Reason being that I learn better by being shown over reading. Dan right it a pain with having to pause and rewind to go over a bit again, but that normal because I have missed something.

As for skipping thing because they think everyone knows how to do it is another pain the in the ares. luckily with blender I know most of the short cuts on from 2.79 back. At least Blender Guru covers everything in each tut and when he dose miss something out he tell you where you can find it in a past tut as he has covered it more than once.
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MadKoifish

Dunno I will stick to google evil over iapple evil. Least I wont pay so much for it. speaking of those things gonna probably have to get a new one soon the galaxy s5 is just so damned slow these days taking a picture is like pulling teeth. By the time it opens the camera sets up focuses and takes the pic the thing I was gonna shoot is long LONG gone. Seems every month it is slower. . . . .

scifidude79

Aug 24, 2019, 07:29 am #193 Last Edit: Aug 24, 2019, 07:31 am by scifidude79
They've actually done studies on which one spies on you more, and Google way worse than Apple. That wasn't the way I expected it to go. I actually thought Apple was the worst. But yeah, none of them are good. You've just gotta go with what works for you. Right now for me, that's Apple. But, it hasn't been an easy transition. A lot of stuff to change over, plus content I just don't look at anymore, like YT stuff. Though, to be honest, I was doing way too much YT there for a while. I've taken to reading instead during my bus rides to and from work and it's been nice.

The thing I hate most about Apple is their prices. What they charge for what you get is ridiculous. That's why they only thing I've actually got from them is a phone. And, it's not even a newer one, though that's actually a good thing. The iPhone 7 was the one where they dropped the headphone jack forcing you to use easily hackable Bluetooth. And, my iPhone 6S got an update to iOS 12.4, or whatever the latest is, earlier. That's another thing Google doesn't do is push updates for their older operating systems. You hardly ever get Android updates after you initially activate the phone, tablet, whatever. You get app updates, but not system updates. It's kind of disturbing if you think about it.

Anyway, a bit off track there. Like I said, it all comes down to what you like. I don't really like either company that much, but I'm using an Apple phone these days. There aren't really any other options for smartphones because everyone else's mobile operating systems seem to fizzle.

On a more relevant subject, I did a write up on that Eaglemoss Phase II ship I got off of Ebay:

https://evilgenius180.wordpress.com/2019/08/23/eaglemoss-phase-ii/

valkyrie013

Aug 27, 2019, 02:04 am #194 Last Edit: Aug 27, 2019, 02:06 am by valkyrie013
First, looking good!

Second..
For me it depends on what the tutorial is.. if its just some odd question that will take 5 seconds to read, then yep, words are fine, but If i'm doing totally something new, like a new After Effects tutorial, I like the videos.. But it is REALLY dependent on the Host/narrator.. if they suck at explaining.. its going to be torture to watch.. Bueller.... Bueller....

third.. Yeah.. Google is horrible, and Apple is actually promoting themselves on there security and secrecy for its customers.. but damn do they cost way to much.. was going to get an I phone.. till I looked at the price even for last years model.. Eeeek!

As for blender.. Read an article on how some Japanese companies are moving to that platform from Lightwave or Max.. probably to save a buck, or that you can add Blender to add infintum computers for render farms..